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Susanna smith
« on: Monday 03 February 20 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi,for many years on my tree I've got susanna loveless who married James smith,1841 census,goathill,Sherborne,Dorset.siblings Edward,Joseph,selina. And now I'm stuck wondering if susanna was loveless,from the tolpuddle martyrs.wounder if you could help me out on this one

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Re: Susanna smith
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 February 20 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Have you actually got  or seen the marriage cert?

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Is this them, taken from Ancestry family trees
Susanna Loveless
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James Smith
06/06/1814
at parish of Burton Bradstock
A check on baptisms might be a good idea

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Re: Susanna smith
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 February 20 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Are they the couple who marry on 6th June 1814 at Burton Bradstock?    Susanna transcribed as Lovelass.

Have you looked for a baptism for her to find her father?

Are Edward, Joseph and Selina her children or her siblings?
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Re: Susanna smith
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 February 20 11:01 GMT (UK) »
The 1841 census does not of course state the relationship but Susan, as noted was a widow in 1851. So maybe this is the marriage below.

Name   James Smith
Spouse   Susannah Loveless
Marriage   06/06/1814 Burton-Bradstock Dorset

The 1851 census notes Susan as 56. The only birth record I can find poses a problem?

Name   Susanna Lovelace
Mother   Eliz Lovelace
Father   Willm Lovelace
Baptism   25/12/1792 Bridport Dorset

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Susanna smith
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 February 20 11:10 GMT (UK) »
George Loveless one of the Tolpuddle Marty’s was baptised  26 Feb 1797 Tolpuddle, Dorset Parents Thomas & Dinah. Tolpuddle is some 20 miles from Bridport.

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Re: Susanna smith
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 February 20 11:19 GMT (UK) »
George Loveless (one of the Martyrs) emigrated to Canada.
James Loveless (another Martyr) also emigrated to Canada.

See: https://www.tolpuddlemartyrs.org.uk/meet-martyrs
A downloadable Family Tree is available from that page - scroll to the bottom of the page.
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Re: Susanna smith
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 February 20 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Susannah Lovelace Bapt 29 Apr 1787 Tolpuddle to Thomas/Dinah

1861 Census
James Smith, 70
Susan Smith, 72, born Tolpuddle, Dorset

1851 Census
James Smith   60
Susan Smith   62 same pob

1841 Census
Somerset
James Smith   50
Susannah Smith   50
Joseph Smith   15
Edward Smith   15
Selina Smith   13

Another child;   
Maximilion Loveless Smith christened 02 MAY 1815 Wesleyan, Axminster, Devon
(Source Familysearch.Org)
On Census he is born c 1815 Burton Bradstock Dorset
He married Ann LEGG

Interestingly there is a Legg Family next to James/Susanna 1851 Census
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Re: Susanna smith
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 February 20 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Marriage; 04 Apr 1786
Thomas LOVELESS to Diana STRICKLAND

I think Diana was buried 12 Jul 1809 (no age given)and Thomas 31 Jan 1838 age 76 (1762)

I havent downloaded the PDF but on that site is a error.

Dinah Jnr married Thomas STANFIELD 29 Sep 1812, Susanna Loveless was a witness.
Site has Dinah as 1798-1865

She was Bapt 22 Feb 1789***

Thomas/Diana Bapt;
JOHN 1786
SUSANNAH 1787
DINAH 1789
MARY 1790
THOMAS 1792
WILLIAM 1794
GEORGE 1797
ROBERT 1800
JAMES 1808
Possible SAMUEL 1803 but Father as Samuel (a mistake?) Mother Diana)

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Re: Susanna smith
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 February 20 12:58 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: louisa maud on Monday 03 February 20 10:31 GMT (UK)
Have you actually got  or seen the marriage cert?

Louisa Maud

ADDED,
Is this them, taken from Ancestry family trees
Susanna Loveless
to
James Smith
06/06/1814
at parish of Burton Bradstock
A check on baptisms might be a good idea

Louisa Maud
yes that's the ones I've got in my tree
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