Author Topic: Sarah Asselborough/ Francis Brown 2Q 1914 marriage South Shields  (Read 1403 times)

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Re: Sarah Asselborough/ Francis Brown 2Q 1914 marriage South Shields
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 January 20 00:18 GMT (UK) »
Name
Sarah Asselbrough
Event Type
Marriage
Event Place
Sunderland, Durham, England
Registration District
Sunderland
County
Durham
Registration Quarter
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year
1914
Volume
10A
Page
1195
Affiliate Line Number
140
Spouse Name (available after 1911)
Gibson
Possible Spouse
Edward Gibson
 
So close together but no relation?

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Re: Sarah Asselborough/ Francis Brown 2Q 1914 marriage South Shields
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 January 20 09:25 GMT (UK) »
I owe you an explanation for my query. Some couple of years ago, my mother's DNA test threw up unmistakable evidence of a NEP event. I had literally dozens of Cunningham matches in Ancestry and a couple in Gedmatch with no Cunninghams in my tree. My c19th tree is firmly backed with evidence so one of my ancestors was "not their father's child". The Cuckoo parent was Cunningham of South Shields and Deptford. Both localities were in my existing tree so the common person was apparently James Fairweather Cunningham from SS who spent some 10 years in the naval dockyards in the Deptford area or possibly his father John who stayed put in SS. As a result, I retested with MyHeritage (so now FTdna, Ancestry, Livingdna, MyH, all also in Gedmatch)
Recently I got yet another closeish match - 112 cM - in MyH, but the inactive person concerned had only 5 names and a couple of dates in their abbreviated tree. If names are sufficiently distinctive, I am experienced enough to be able to create their trees pretty accurately especially if it is not too many generations. In this case Thomas Sidney Hodgson (mother Parker) born in 1916 married a female Brown whose mother was Sarah Asselborough. Sarah's father appears to be Francis. I knew the DNA match was Cunningham and their action generally took place from South Shields to Sunderland.
So Boo's question is a good one. In order to track back to my Cunningham connection, I need to know the name of Sarah's father-in-law Brown. If her husband was Francis, one possible is John Brown born in 1858, and another, George Brown 1861 who was the son of Mary Robson Cunningham, sister of James Fairweather Cunningham. George had a brother called Francis Cunningham Brown....
So it is detective work which will find my exact relationship to my mother's new Hodgson 122 cM cousin with a common Cunningham ancestor that I am involved in.
Rootschat is full of fellow puzzle solvers .... if it were my own ancestor, I would happily pay, but I am not wealthy enough to pay for images to prove my relationship to so many Cunningham cousins!
PS I remember my great grandmother, the Cunningham cuckoo born in 1866 pushing me, aged 2.5 in my push chair in King's Cross Station in 1844 while evacuating from the V2s, but she thought her maiden name was Hurrion!
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Re: Sarah Asselborough/ Francis Brown 2Q 1914 marriage South Shields
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 January 20 12:26 GMT (UK) »
I have checked the various possible sources for where else may hold these records (which could increase the likelihood of a look up request finding a volunteer, as Durham Record Office doesn't appear to have many visitors from Rootschat, going on previous requests I have seen)

Local Studies Library at The Word, South Shields
https://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/34350/Parish-registers
only have marriages up to 1904 listed for Whitburn

Tyne and Wear Archives
https://twarchives.org.uk/collection/user-guides-and-information
they too only have marriages up to 1904 listed for Whitburn

Family Search
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=11782&query=%2Bplace%3A%22England%2C%20Durham%2C%20Whitburn%22&subjectsOpen=507923-50,533678-50

no records for Whitburn for this time frame - so even a visit to an FHC to look it up (which I could do for you) wont help

Durham Records Online (a pay per view site which does transcriptions)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=824473.9;last_msg=6878277https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/Parish_Record_Info.php

No records for Whitburn post 1852

Try a new query with a relevant title  (Durham Record Office look up) and hopefully someone may be going,
Otherwise unless someone else knows of another possible source the cheapest option is the one I posted about using the Durham Record Office Quick Search facility.
http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/article/11113?SearchType=Param&Variations=N&Parish=Whitburn+St.+Mary&RegType=Marriages&OrderBy=NAME&ItemID=597983#marriagesAnchor

That will show you their reference number for the time frame and church to order the copy. Though you don't have a date and the Record office don't have these indexed, you do know the year and quarter and now the church and entry number in the register from the South Tyneside Registrars site which should help them find it.


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Re: Sarah Asselborough/ Francis Brown 2Q 1914 marriage South Shields
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 January 20 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much, barryd and Boo. I think Barrys find in Sunderland is not going to be an alternative; my Asselbrough/ Brown marriage took place in Whitburn St Mary. Thank,you boo for your looking up locations. I can follow up your advice if other methods fail.
Bill, Shropshire
Cox, Nottingham, Maidenhead, West London
Donne, Carmarthen London & Kent
Holloway Medway, Kent
Hepple, Northumberland
Hurrian, North Kent, SE London
Lutman, Sussex
Newcomb, Corby, Lincs, Southwark, Clerkenwell
Orange Normandy East London
Proudlock, Northumberland
Shipley, Northumberland
Staples, City of London, Holborn
Sweeting, Suffolk, London, Surrey
Wilson, Marylebone, Fulham, London


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Re: Sarah Asselborough/ Francis Brown 2Q 1914 marriage South Shields
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 23 January 20 14:42 GMT (UK) »
according to South Tyneside marriage search site,
 Sarah E Asselbrough married Francis Brown 11 April 1914 at St Mary CE , Whitburn. this is in South Shields registration district. Sorry I omitted date before.
hope this helps.
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Re: Sarah Asselborough/ Francis Brown 2Q 1914 marriage South Shields
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 23 January 20 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Yes, thank you all. I have now identified said Hodgson as my 4th (1/2) cousin.
Bill, Shropshire
Cox, Nottingham, Maidenhead, West London
Donne, Carmarthen London & Kent
Holloway Medway, Kent
Hepple, Northumberland
Hurrian, North Kent, SE London
Lutman, Sussex
Newcomb, Corby, Lincs, Southwark, Clerkenwell
Orange Normandy East London
Proudlock, Northumberland
Shipley, Northumberland
Staples, City of London, Holborn
Sweeting, Suffolk, London, Surrey
Wilson, Marylebone, Fulham, London