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GARBUTT cousins, Bilsdale.
« on: Sunday 19 January 20 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone, I am in need of your help again please.

I am hoping to keep this as simple as possible. I am helping a friend research their family tree and I have hit a problem that I can't seem to solve. I know that you shouldn't always rely on oral family history as things can get distorted over time, but the stories say that her great grandmothers on her mother's side were related, possibly cousins. I can certainly say that their maiden names were the same and they both came from Bilsdale.

Great Grandmother number 1 = Mary Hannah Garbutt born circa 1865 Bilsdale.
She married James Pettit in 1884 in Middlesborough and they had 4 children. After James died she married Robert Wilkinson Hearn in 1896 in Middlesborough.
1911 census lists her mother as Mary Garbutt age 66, widow, born Bilsdale.

Great Grandmother number 2 = Martha Alice Garbutt born circa 1867 Bilsdale.
She married George Dennis in 1884 in Pickering and had 11 children. In 1911 the family was living in York as George worked for the railway.

I am struggling to locate these two ladies before they married on any census record. I think I have just been staring at the problem too long and the solution is probably really obvious, but any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Carrie xx :)
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Re: GARBUTT cousins, Bilsdale.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 January 20 16:56 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked for their births on freebmd or GRO?

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Re: GARBUTT cousins, Bilsdale.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 January 20 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Maybe, 1871 Bilsdale
John   Garbutt   31   
Anne   Garbutt   29   
Martha H   Garbutt   Dtr   6   (born c1865)   
William   Garbutt   Son   4   
J H   Garbutt   Son      2   
Thomas   Garbutt   Son   
Martha   Garbutt   Niece   4   (born c1867)
Henry   Garbutt   Uncle   58   

RG10/4860 f120 p12
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBZ8-MBQ
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Re: GARBUTT cousins, Bilsdale.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 January 20 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Number 1)
Illegitimate?
Mary Hannah Garbutt
Baptised   13 November  1864  at Great Ayton,York
Mother:   Mary Ann Garbutt
FHL Film Number:   894234


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Re: GARBUTT cousins, Bilsdale.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 January 20 17:07 GMT (UK) »
What were their father's names on the marriage certificates?

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Re: GARBUTT cousins, Bilsdale.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 January 20 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Choice of Stokesley births:

Mary hannah Garbutt  mmn Bell   1863  Dec quarter  Stokesley  09d  443
Mary hannah Garbutt  -        1864  Dec quarter  Stokesley  09d  440
Mary hannah Garbutt  -  1864  Dec quarter  Stokesley   09D  443



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Re: GARBUTT cousins, Bilsdale.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 January 20 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Both in Bilsdale in 1881

Martha H with parents John & Ann
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27B-LYL6

Martha A - servant
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27B-LYBB
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Re: GARBUTT cousins, Bilsdale.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 January 20 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Choice of Stokesley births:

Mary hannah Garbutt  mmn Bell   1863  Dec quarter  Stokesley  09d  443
Mary hannah Garbutt  -        1864  Dec quarter  Stokesley  09d  440
Mary hannah Garbutt  -  1864  Dec quarter  Stokesley   09D  443

The MMN Bell birth would fit with the census

GARBUTT, WILLIAM    mmnBELL 
1866  Dec Quarter in STOKESLEY  Volume 09D  Page 467
 


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Re: GARBUTT cousins, Bilsdale.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 January 20 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Cannot see a Martha Alice birth in Stokesley, there is this:

Martha Garbutt  -   1866 September quarter  Stokesley  09D  458