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Re: Legality of birth certificates
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 18 January 20 09:16 GMT (UK) »
Is this Elizabeth Ann in 1891?

Census ref RG12  4543  75  12
Mary Tudor Davies, Head, mar, 40, Midwife,  b. Cardigan
Elizabeth A Jones, dau, mar , 23, b. Cardigan
Herbert D** Jones, grandson, 3, b Cardigan
William T Jones, grandson, 1, b. Cardigan

Address Pwllhai

** I think this should be "Ll" - not D as transcribed?

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Re: Legality of birth certificates
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 18 January 20 09:49 GMT (UK) »
http://newspapers.library.wales

Put "mary tudor davies" in Search (include the "   " as part of search key) and hit Search button.

1 "hit" returned.

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Re: Legality of birth certificates
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 18 January 20 10:48 GMT (UK) »
That’s correct it should be Ll
Also in the 1901 census I have Mary Tudor Davies with 3 grandchildren.
Listed with incorrect names and in the case of mary( Myfanwy) she is listed as being 47.  She is 4.
No sign of Elizabeth
W L Jones I think is in llandebie as a border and a physician surgeon .
In 1911 he is in Newcastle in Emlyn and listed as a dispenser

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Re: Legality of birth certificates
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 18 January 20 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Not having much luck with the newspaper search 🙄


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Re: Legality of birth certificates
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 18 January 20 12:39 GMT (UK) »
I did exactly as Hanes said and below is part of what appears.

CARDIGAIN.
… Llewelyn Jones, Llangranog, was charged with having assaulted Elizabeth Davies, a woman with whom he cohabits, and her mother, Mary Tudor Davies, both residing at Pwllhai in this town. Defendant was also charged with having been drunk and disorderly at the time.- P.S. Davies said that while on duty near Pwllhai, he hpard screaming and a cry of murder. On entering Mary Davies's house, she accused the…

The Cambrian News and Merionethshire Standard
13th May 1892
Newsp.6556 words

To see the full report, click on the name of the paper.  At the top of the page click on the pages until you get to Page 6.

Look for the heading CARDIGAN then scroll down that bit until you find the words Police Court.  Then you can read the full article.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Legality of birth certificates
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 18 January 20 12:58 GMT (UK) »
Clicking on the name CARDIGAIN (sic - there's been an OCR misread, but understandable) will deliver the correct page and will automatically zoom in on the relevant column.

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 18 January 20 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Ah I hadn't realised that you needed to click on the word CARDIGAIN.   Doing that of course takes you straight to the relevant item.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Legality of birth certificates
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 18 January 20 13:16 GMT (UK) »
But I would think that the chances of being found out were remote, and I would be interested if anyone was charged in the courts, apart, possibly, from cases of bigamy.
Stan

We must be a nation of dobbers, which is how many came to the notice of the courts.

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Re: Legality of birth certificates
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 18 January 20 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Putting False Registration Birth in to the British Newspaper Archives gives 295 Articles, although many will be the same case in different newspapers, and not all in the UK.

Stan
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