Legality of birth certificates

[jillyg]

I cannot find a marriage certificate for my great grandmother,yet she states she is married on my grandmothers birth certificate.
In 1893 would she have had to show proof of legal name.

[wivenhoe]

You have not said where this birth was recorded. There might have been some places in the world where it was necessary in 1893, but I doubt it.

If you are researching the origins of your grandmother, start with the birth record.

If you list all the information on the birth record we might be able to find information about great grandmother.

[jillyg]

Grandmother...Myfanwy gwendoline Jones
Great grandmother Elizabeth Ann jones née Davies also listed as Thomas in the 1871 census
Great grandfather William llewyllyn Jones
Born pwllhai Cardigan .1893.
There were two older brothers born 1888 1890.
Have searched fo marriage certificate with no luck.

[jillyg]

I do have quite a bit of information,but is the marriage that eludes me. I suspect they were never married.. also would like to have a death certificate for Elizabeth and William

[chempat]

Grandmother...Myfanwy gwendoline Jones
....
Born pwllhai Cardigan .1893.
....

I cannot see any birth for Myfanwy Jones in Pwllheli in 1893 - have I misunderstood who is who?

Added:
OK, my apologies - Born in Cardigan as you stated NOT Pwllheli
For reference
Myfanwy Gwendoline Jones mmn Davies
 1893 March quarter   Quarter in CARDIGAN   11B   8

When were Elizabeth and William born - ages on any censuses?

[GrahamH]

I cannot see any birth for Myfanwy Jones in Pwllheli in 1893 - have I misunderstood who is who?

If you search for Myfanwy Jones registered in 1893 it comes up as
JONES, MYFANWY  GWENDOLINE   mmn DAVIES   
GRO Reference: 1893  M Quarter in CARDIGAN  Volume 11B  Page 8

[Guy Etchells]

I cannot find a marriage certificate for my great grandmother,yet she states she is married on my grandmothers birth certificate.
In 1893 would she have had to show proof of legal name.

If you are referring to England & Wales no simply because a person does not have a legal name as other countries do name their name is the name they use.

It not until the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (entry into force 2 September 1990) that a child in England and Wales had to be given a name, no English law required it.

Cheers
Guy

[jillyg]

William llewyllyn Jones 1865 Llangranog
Elizabeth Ann Davies listed as Thomas in 1871 born Pwllhai 1868

[stanmapstone]

I cannot find a marriage certificate for my great grandmother,yet she states she is married on my grandmothers birth certificate.
In 1893 would she have had to show proof of legal name.

The information on  certificates is only as good as that supplied by the people involved. The civil registration system in England and Wales is  'informant driven' that is the registrar can only put what he is told. However there is a penalty of perjury if the information is wilfully false.
The operative word is "willfully"
But I would think that the chances of being found out were remote, and I would be interested if anyone was charged in the courts, apart, possibly, from cases of bigamy.
Stan