Calne - BUTCHER

[Capetown]

Ancestry: Wiltshire Marriages

Name: Wm BATCHER

Marriage : 11 July 1828

Calne, Wiltshire

Spouse: Sarah NICHOLS

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Original Entry has

Wm BUTCHER - of this Parish
Sarah NICHOLS - of this Parish

were married by Banns

witnesses : Wm AXFORD Snr.

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[JEB01]

Thank you Glencare, all of that is very interesting to me.

I will do some further checking with regard to Selina (an unusual name). Do you know when she was baptised as an adult?

Any information at all about Anne Butcher's (nee Duck) would be much appreciated.

You mentioned earlier the the 1817 marriage between William Butcher and Anne Duck. One of the witnesses was Benjamin Rivers who I think is very likely the brother of William.

William's mother was Ann Rivers (quite a large family of Rivers in Bremhill), who had an illegitimate child (baptised Benjamin Rivers) in Bremhill, in March 1790.

In October 1792 Ann married Benjamin Butcher (or Bucher as iit was spelt in the parish record at Bremhill). "Benjamin" doesn't seem to have been a well used Christian name at the time, so I've assumed Benjamin Butcher to be the father of Benjamin Rivers.

[JEB01]

Thank you also Capetown.

William Butcher married his second wife Sarah in Calne in February 1828. I think his first wife, Anne, died in 1827 leaving him with, I thought two children, but from this very helpful thread, possibly it was four children.

Little wonder that he married again fairly quickly!

The odd thing is Sarah's age. The Census report of 1851 says she was born in Melksham in 1783, which would make her 10 years older than her husband William, but when Sarah died the following year, in October 1852, her stepdaughter Elizabeth Morley (William's married daughter) gives her age as 77 years, which would give a birth year of 1775, and make Sarah 18 years older than her husband William.

Elizabeth was in a position to know as William and Sarah were living with the Morleys by then.

Sarah's death certificate records the main cause of death as "paralysis - 10 years", so I assume life wasn't easy.
William continued to live as a lodger with the Morley family in Calne until he died in 1873.

Again my thanks to all who have responded to my original post.

[JEB01]

Glencare - sorry my message should have read, any information about Anne Butcher's death in 1827 would be much appreciated.

[Capetown]

I did think, Sarah NICHOLS could have been married before


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There is a marriage of a Simon NICHOLS to Sarah GUNNING - 11 September 1802 at Calne (just had a quick look at Family Search, also on Ancestry)

Christening at Calne - 14 August 1803 (born 16 June 1803) - after the date is written  Tyler - not sure if this is Simon's occupation:  (can't find a death) - but he could have worked anywhere!

William NICHOLS - parents: Simon & Sarah  ***


Then back to Family Search (which I still find very useful)

and it comes up with

Sarah GUNNING - christened 21 March 1784 at Melksham, father: Caleb GUNNING

(1 year off the 1851 census)


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Think this is a distinct possibility...


*** There is a William NICHOLS c1804 - living in Calne - occupation: Schoolmaster (1841 census living in Cherhill, Wilts.

Simon Nicholas baptised 21 September 1777 Calne, Wiltshire.

[Capetown]

Checking with Wiltshire, Church of England Deaths and Burials - 1813-1916

Parish Entry on Ancestry 

At the top of the page (138 of 306)  - gives the year 1827

Anne BUTCHER of Calne aged 57 years.  = c1770

This Anne seems too old for the Mother of William & Elizabeth!


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When I search Ancestry for DUCK marriages in Calne, around that time - 'No Hits'

When I use Family Search -  there are loads!!! - so have to cross-reference, quite a few to work with, but this may be a possibility.

October 30 1785

Anne Daugr of Isaac & Maria duck, born 12th - labr. Paid.

So Isaac was a labourer.


Not far down on that page, is Isaac, Son of Thomas & Prifscilla DUCK - on November 3 - born 3rd, again a labourer.


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Witnesses: Jane ANGELL at Anne DUCK's marriage -

Jane ANGELL christened at Calne 6 May 1792, father Isaac - mother: Ann

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There is a George ANGELL marrying Jane BUTCHER - at Calne - 22 April 1822.

[JEB01]

Thank you once again Capetown.

Quite a lot to work on here. I also felt that Sarah Nichols was probably married before she married William in 1828, and also came to the view that she was probably born Sarah Gunning in Melksham, if only because the 1851 Census seems to have been reasonably accurate in that it recorded William Butcher's year and place of birth correctly, so why not Sarah's too?

My original inquiry was to try and find a record of the baptism of William Butcher's son, William, and his sister Elizabeth, but I'm now even more of the view that for some reason they were not baptised, or if they were that the record hasn't survived.

Even so I'm sure William senior was their father, and the replies I've received have helped expand the story, so once more my thanks for all the information.

I'm inclined I think to regard this as a "completed" inquiry.