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Re: Army information about Alfred Coleshill 3952 WW1
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 00:21 GMT (UK) »
So if he went to France on the 11 September does that mean he was in the 1st battalion

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Re: Army information about Alfred Coleshill 3952 WW1
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 09:28 GMT (UK) »
It means only that he arrived in France on 11 September and, as I pointed out earlier, 1st, 2nd and 3rd Battalions had already been in  France since mid to late August so which battalion he joined is not known.

My post about reinforcements was the result of a quick first reading of the 3 battalions war diaries looking for reference to reinforcements a little after 11 September.  The battalions at that time had been heavily engaged in what became known as the retreat from Mons and in mid September were equally heavily engaged on the Aisne.  The war diaries cannot, perhaps understandably, be totally relied upon to show when reinforcements arrived, what I quoted was from that first quick reading where the only references I found were to 1st Bn on 20 Sep (about right) and 3rd Bn on 4th (too early).

It may be that the next higher levels of command, the brigade and divisional diaries, may have more clues but that is all they will be, clues, there will be no list with his name.  I'll take a look.

You either have to take a leap of faith and assume one battalion or another or, as I have said more than once before, apply for his service record which should show for sure who he joined in France.

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Re: Army information about Alfred Coleshill 3952 WW1
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 16:52 GMT (UK) »
I have checked his medal records and says he was in the 2st battalion

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Re: Army information about Alfred Coleshill 3952 WW1
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 17:15 GMT (UK) »
I have checked his medal records and says he was in the 2st battalion

What medal record is this.  I have looked at his 1914 Star roll, his British War and Victory Medals roll and his Silver War Badge.  None of them, as far as I can see, have the battalion.

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Re: Army information about Alfred Coleshill 3952 WW1
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Well am not sure but it’s on his victory and British medal record and its  written in blue pen the numbers there next to their service number

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Re: Army information about Alfred Coleshill 3952 WW1
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Your eyes are much better than mine - good spot and a better clue that we have so far.  While we cannot be sure that he stayed with 2nd Battalion throughout, there are no other clues so it would be as well to assume that was his battalion.

The war diaries you need (remembering he was discharged in Oct 1916) are the first two here:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=2+coldstream+WO+95

They are on Ancestry at:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/60779/43112_1342_0-00000?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return and

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/60779/43849_1215_2-00000?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return  (which includes other Guards battalions)

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Re: Army information about Alfred Coleshill 3952 WW1
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 17:58 GMT (UK) »
My granddad did say he was in the 2nd or the 3 but am seeing him tomorrow because he said he had a picture of him when he came home and he was wearing a big fur coat over his army uniform because he said it was too damn cold

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WW1 Alfred Coleshill 3952
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 25 August 20 13:13 BST (UK) »
Hi I was wondering if you could tell me where my great granddad was in ww1 he was a coldstream guards thanks luke

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Re: WW1 Alfred Coleshill 3952
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 25 August 20 13:47 BST (UK) »
Hi ,

Do you know which Battalion he served in ?
Some information here(Coldstream Guards during WW1) -
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/units/242/coldstream-guards/#:~:text=Coldstream%20Guards%20during%20WW1,Brigade%20of%20the%201st%20Division.

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