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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 18 January 20 13:18 GMT (UK) »
In country districts it was very common to refer to the name of a block of cottages rather than the road, and numbers would be within the block rather than along the road. My parents once bought a house and it was six months later when they found out the name of the lane!

The same applies in some towns, with a named terrace on a long road having its own numbering, as though it was a side street.

It can be difficult to follow the enumerator's route, because the map may not account for newly-built properties even though dates seem to line up. Sometimes you need to look at previous censuses and work out "landmarks" - people who were less likely to move. It's how I found out that the place my gggf died  in 1874 had been demolished as a slum by 1881 and that "New Market Street" had been built in its place.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 18 January 20 15:02 GMT (UK) »
  And then you have the enumerator who, in 1851, helpfully arranged one of my villages in alphabetical order!
   The villages I am talking about really didn't have house numbers, in fact some still don't.
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 18 January 20 18:46 GMT (UK) »
With Ancestry it will not allow you to go on to the next area by using the arrow for next page but if you click on the icon to the left of the number at the bottom, i.e. 7 of 7, you can go on through further areas.

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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 18 January 20 20:41 GMT (UK) »
  Thanks for that tip, but unfortunately they are in alphabetical order, so rather than the next village geographically, I get one at the other end of the county.
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 18 January 20 22:35 GMT (UK) »
I am not sure what you mean.  The menus/breadcrumbs not sure how to describe it are county, then area, then area within that and lastly districts, you can click on the districts at the end.
Lugg/Freeman/Caddy- Cornwall
Dayman/Hobbs - Devon
Brett/Clark/Hicks - Middx/Essex/London
Miles - Northampton
Woodruff/Proctor/Worth - Midlands/NE/Wales

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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 18 January 20 22:51 GMT (UK) »
  I couldn't find the menu you mentioned but I have it now. Thank you.
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 19 January 20 10:26 GMT (UK) »
fab, with small villages, it doesn't take that long to look through, often finding all the family members along the way.
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Dayman/Hobbs - Devon
Brett/Clark/Hicks - Middx/Essex/London
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #25 on: Monday 20 January 20 21:00 GMT (UK) »
I guess the enumerator may have took the census schedules in a random fashion by doing one terrace, crossing the road to do 2 houses then back across the road to do the pub. If your family are listed near a pub or a house with a distinctive name, or the church/shop that can help pinpoint where they lived.

I had a relative born in London and the address on the birth cert said " 2 Southampton Terrace, Islington". Took me ages to track it down, as I found that Southampton Terrace was a row of houses, not a street, but the street was Upper Southampton Street. However if precise info was given in the records, we'd not have as much fun finding out the further info.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 21 January 20 12:45 GMT (UK) »
I did the census in the 80s and had to find a lot of 'wooden huts' where people were living in Dobbs Weir, the enumerators had (and will still have?) the responsibility of finding all the properties in the area, all the 22b and upstairs flats etc tucked around corners.
Lugg/Freeman/Caddy- Cornwall
Dayman/Hobbs - Devon
Brett/Clark/Hicks - Middx/Essex/London
Miles - Northampton
Woodruff/Proctor/Worth - Midlands/NE/Wales

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