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Offline vicky19

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Hi, is there a place where I can check a modern address against one I have found in the census?? The maps of the area are not very helpful. I have the right village but would like to find the actual occupier of a house if possible.. Thanks Vicky
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 January 20 12:40 GMT (UK) »
If you are willing to provide names, dates and address I'm sure someone will be able to help you.

NLS side by side maps can be very useful to compare "then" and "now" addresses:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=6&lat=55.4060&lon=-1.7112&layers=6&right=BingHyb


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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 January 20 12:49 GMT (UK) »
The current address is Cashes Green Road, which is in Stroud. However up to at least 1939 the group of houses were just called Hamwell Leaze. There are some house numbers on the 1881 census but I dont think they relate at all to current house numbers. In 1891 they are just Hamwell Cottages. And in 1911 they are just listed under Hamwell Leaze. There are some house numbers in 1939 but its still Hamwell Leaze rather than Cashes Green. I've looked at early maps but they are not very helpful. Thanks Vicky
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 January 20 13:04 GMT (UK) »
Hamwell Leaze is a slightly different area to Cashes Green, which you can see here:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=51.7486&lon=-2.2472&layers=6&right=BingHyb

Are the cottages you are interested in the ones by the Brewery? If so, they seem to be in Hamwell Leaze.

Have a look at the 1884 map here:
https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/384503/205500/12/100203


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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 January 20 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi, yes its the places which were next to the old Brewery, so Hamwell Leaze rather than Cashes Green itself. All through the census it's Hamwell Leaze. Cashes Green Road is just the modern street address for these properties, it's very confusing that they've called it this rather than Hamwell. Vicky
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 January 20 14:14 GMT (UK) »
I would think that your Local Authority would be able to help.
Street numbering comes under the provisions of the Towns Improvement Clauses Act 1847 and the 1925 Public Health Act.
The Local Authority administer these and should have a record of the numbering and any subsequent re-numbering.
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 January 20 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Ok, great thanks. Vicky
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 January 20 14:23 GMT (UK) »
It is most likely that the numbering of the cottages started at the village [NW] end. An excerpt of the enumerator's route shows this:

So if you can find Mr Phipps he will probably be after No 11 Hamwell Leaze.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
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Re: How to find out how an old street name and number translate to a modern address
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 January 20 14:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks.
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