Critchfield/Evans Marriage

[Ladyhawk]

My own feelings are that Edwin Harry and Katherine/Catherine/Kathleen Mabel were William T Critchfield's children, the others were not, and the gentleman concerned was named Hardy. I would really appreciate other points of view on this.

Still looking to see what I can find - had you seen these two birth entries

Emily Gwen H Critchfield
Registration Year:   1874
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:   Manchester Lancashire
Volume:   8d Page:   217

Emily Gwen H Hardy
Registration Year:   1874
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:   Manchester Lancashire
Volume:   8d Page:   217

You beat me to it, I was just about to post this. I think this is the one to order. This morning I have seen a tree online that says the father is George Hardy, but it has no citations.

Maybe deciding on purchasing one of the births of the children mentioned to see who has been named father  The three baptisms say father William Thomas Critchfield and Catherine's Thomas Critchfield - it's all very confusing.

Might the Hardy surname have something to do with William 

 Just confirming these are the other birth entries

Catherine Mabel Hardy Sep qtr 1870 Lambeth RD Ref 1d 344

Georgina Hardy Critchfield Sep qtr 1876 Manchester Ref 8d 234

Frank Hardy Critchfield Dec qtr 1877 Chorlton RD Ref 8c 853

[Flouncylicious]

As far as I can see, there is no Hardy link to the Critchfields. William Thomas Critchfield keeps that name throughout his life, and during his time on the stage. So I don't think it's a case of a name change on his part. His MMN is Swinyard. He is living in Southwark 1871 and Reading 1881, but did travel extensively at certain points in his life to perform at music halls. So I suppose there is a possibility that Maria saw him after she left London. I think finding out about his illegitimate child and the court case may have ended their marriage very soon after it begun.

I have ordered a birth cert for Emily Gwen, as she has the double entry. Hopefully that will be available by the end of the week.

[Flouncylicious]

I have had to make an alteration to one of my posts as the 1901 entry I believe to be Maria/Eliza actually shows her name as Elise. I thought this meant that I had found the wrong person, but then I found an entry on the 1911 census Isleworth.

Class: RG14; Piece: 6813; Schedule Number: 56

Frank Roberts   33
Florence Rebecca Louise Roberts   25
Frank Montrose Roberts   6
Elise Roberts   3
Elise Roberts   61

Elise is marked as a visitor. Hers and Frank snrs details match with the Critchfield/Hardy/Roberts scenario, and I believe that Frank jnr is the person alluded to in Edwin Critchfield's probate entry, as he becomes a newspaper publisher.

Also a death entry with a location that fits with her entry on the 1901
Deaths Dec 1918
Roberts    Elise    69    Prestwich    8d   586
 

[Ladyhawk]

I have ordered a birth cert for Emily Gwen, as she has the double entry. Hopefully that will be available by the end of the week.

Please let us know how you get on once b/c arrives - it will be very interesting

The other thing I wondered was why were
Emily Gwendoline Hardy bn 1874 , Georgina  Hardy bn 1876 & Frank Hardy Critchfield bn 1877
were all christened together in 1884

I have had to make an alteration to one of my posts as the 1901 entry I believe to be Maria/Eliza actually shows her name as Elise.

I thought this meant that I had found the wrong person, but then I found an entry on the 1911 census Isleworth.

Class: RG14; Piece: 6813; Schedule Number: 56

Frank Roberts   33
Florence Rebecca Louise Roberts   25
Frank Montrose Roberts   6
Elise Roberts   3
Elise Roberts   61

Elise is marked as a visitor. Hers and Frank snrs details match with the Critchfield/Hardy/Roberts scenario, and I believe that Frank jnr is the person alluded to in Edwin Critchfield's probate entry, as he becomes a newspaper publisher.

Also a death entry with a location that fits with her entry on the 1901
Deaths Dec 1918
Roberts    Elise    69    Prestwich    8d   586
 

It also notes her as mother (visitor)
5 children / 5 still living (this has been crossed out with a red line) 


Frank Roberts, Publishers Manager
Enlistment Age 38 in Army Service Corps
m 30 Jun 1919 R.O. Ecclesall Bierlow Sheffield
Document Year:   1915
Residence Place:   405 Goldhawk Rd, Hammersmith W


Florence Rebecca Louise (MALPASS) Spouse
Frank Montana Roberts   Child
Elise Roberts                  Child

[Flouncylicious]

I will definitely let you know when the cert arrives. You have been so generous with your time on this.

I also wondered about Maria's sudden decision to baptise the children.

Also thanks for the information on Frank. I shall go take a look at that now.

[louisa maud]

I think I have been reinstated, I haven't been able to be part of your recent info

What a find that Maria becomes an Eliza, or have I had yet another senior moment

Louisa Maud

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Mrs Frank has maiden name Malpass. Double sibling marriages?

[Flouncylicious]

Mrs Frank has maiden name Malpass. Double sibling marriages?

   MALPASS, CHARLES  SEPTIMUS     WILKINS 
GRO Reference: 1872  M Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 800

MALPASS, FLORENCE  REBECCA     WILKINS 
GRO Reference: 1869  S Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 674

Marriages Sep 1896   
Malpas    Charles Septimus        Chorlton    8c   1361

Marriages Jun 1903   
Malpass    Florence Rebecca J        Ecclesall B.    9c   721

And thanks once again for your help Mabel.

[louisa maud]

Did you ever find a death for William Thomas Critchfield or a will?

Louisa Maud