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Elizabeth Bierley m Richard Luffman 1853
« on: Sunday 12 January 20 18:46 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth was the first wife of my grandfather, Richard Luffman. I have so far been unable to extablish whether they had any children together, can anyone help. The general area is Alford to Thorpe. Thanks.
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Re: Elizabeth Bierley m Richard Luffman 1853
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 January 20 19:41 GMT (UK) »
When did he remarry?, and what registration district
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Re: Elizabeth Bierley m Richard Luffman 1853
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 January 20 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Is this your Richard in 1881? If so the answer appears to be yes

Locomotive St, Boston

Richard Luffman    52 - b Alford  Railway labourer
Elizth. Luffman    57 - b Orby
William H. Luffman    18 - b Great Steeping. Railway labourer
Ada H. Stephenson    2 - boarder b Boston

RG11; 3218; 94; 24;

Richard is noted as William's father when he marries in 1883

However, 1871 has William as nephew

There is a birth registration of a William Henry Rhoades Luffman in the right period, with no maiden name, and a baptism which lists his mother as Ann, single woman - see https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/581891a5e93790ec8bb24d16/william-henry-rhodes-luffman-luffman-baptism-lincolnshire-great-steeping-1868-07-19?locale=en

I suspect Richard and Elizabeth didn;t have children (as none appear with a Bierly maiden name) and adopted his sister's child. Ada Stephenson is listed as nurse child in 1891, by which time they have another infant nurse child with them




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Re: Elizabeth Bierley m Richard Luffman 1853
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 January 20 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to both respondents. He remarried in 1894 to my grandmother Laetitia Burton.He was at least 66 My aunt was born within 6 months and my father 4 years later. The Y chromosome test holds up!!
William was the illegitimate son of his neice, who had married the believed father William Rhoades with whom she had further children. Funnily enough William never returned to his birth parents and siblings. The nurse children were simply that, believed to be short term fosterings ( at that time there was no legislation) who returned to their birth parents. I am looking with no success so far to possible births between 1855 and 1870.
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Re: Elizabeth Bierley m Richard Luffman 1853
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 January 20 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Both the death of Elizabeth and the remarriage are registered in Boston 1893 and 1894 respectively.
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Re: Elizabeth Bierley m Richard Luffman 1853
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 January 20 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Is this your relative?

Boston Guardian - Saturday 08 August 1903
DEATHS
BOSTON JuIy, 26th, Wm. Lomas Bowler, 40years; 27th, Elizabeth Flint, 33 years; 28th, Ralph Frederic Routen, 12 years; Rebecca Robinson Abbott. 87 years; Evelina Ackrill, 13 hours; Richard Luffman, 75 years; 29th, Alice Maria Priestley, 9 months; August Ist, Jessie Farman, 9 months. CROFT.—Aug. Ist, Ada Mary Riggall, 23 years.

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Re: Elizabeth Bierley m Richard Luffman 1853
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 January 20 14:59 GMT (UK) »
Yes,that was the death of my grandfather, Richard.I believe from memory that the informant of his death was his next door neighbour and nephew ?? Bierley, but he was single and I have been unable to find any living Bierleys
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