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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 31 December 19 22:35 GMT (UK) »
The Manchester Mercury, 1793 - 1794, carries a number of reports re. the Manchester Marine Corps eg.

8 May 1793

"DESERTED
From His Majesty's Manchester Marine Corps, now raising at that Place, the following Recruits - "

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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 January 20 02:54 GMT (UK) »
Every decade it seemed the British government were ordering Parish councils to recruit set quotas for either the army or navy.  I think your man was recruiting naval infantry (marines) for the war between Napoleon and Britain.

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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 January 20 14:26 GMT (UK) »
thanks for the help - lots of new leads.
Wood - Worcestershire
Porter - Coventry & Birmingham
Ward - Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire
Green - Birmingham
Stanbra - Birmingham & India
Law -Birmingham
Rabbit - BIRMINGHAM & Ireland & Canada
Jones - Worcestershire
Duffin - Warwickshire
Smith - Walsall/Perry Barr/Handsworth
Makepeace - Coventry/Northamptonshire
Hands - Warks
Taylor - Warks
Salmon - Warks
Upton - Birmingham
Fawdry - Warwickshire
Ridlington - Lincolsnhire, Cambridgeshire

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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cousin - Edward Porter is my 4x GGF my line is from his son James. I have been asking all the same questions about Edward and the connection between Blackley and Coventry as the others sons born in Coventry then go back to Blackley to marry etc. James goes the opposite way moving from Manchester to Coventry to weave Ribbons. The comments about there being marines in manchester is very interesting and would be great to see if there is any more info.

I am also curious about Edward's birth as there are a number of possibilities - i favoured the one in Plymouth son of a soldier as I thought military background plus right area to join in Portsmouth. Why do you think the Hereford birth?


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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Every decade it seemed the British government were ordering Parish councils to recruit set quotas for either the army or navy.  I think your man was recruiting naval infantry (marines) for the war between Napoleon and Britain.

https://www.napoleon.org/en/history-of-the-two-empires/articles/the-british-navy-1793-1802/

The conflict began as a war against the new Revolutionary government of France headed in 1793 & 1794 by Robespierre. General Napoleon Bonaparte took over as head of government in 1799 after a coup.
There may be information about the regiment in National Archives catalogue, local archives or regimental archives. Muster rolls of some regiments survive from the era. Maybe pension records.
   
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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 21 June 22 19:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Cousin - Edward Porter is my 4x GGF my line is from his son James. I have been asking all the same questions about Edward and the connection between Blackley and Coventry as the others sons born in Coventry then go back to Blackley to marry etc. James goes the opposite way moving from Manchester to Coventry to weave Ribbons. The comments about there being marines in manchester is very interesting and would be great to see if there is any more info.

I am also curious about Edward's birth as there are a number of possibilities - i favoured the one in Plymouth son of a soldier as I thought military background plus right area to join in Portsmouth. Why do you think the Hereford birth?
Sorry I haven't replied to you earlier as haven't look on here for a long time.
A researcher checked Edward Porters army records for me in the National Archives and his record said he was from Much Dewchurch, Herefordshire and he enlisted in Hereford in March 1780 aged 25 years. There is a bit of a description of him if you are interested?
Wood - Worcestershire
Porter - Coventry & Birmingham
Ward - Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire
Green - Birmingham
Stanbra - Birmingham & India
Law -Birmingham
Rabbit - BIRMINGHAM & Ireland & Canada
Jones - Worcestershire
Duffin - Warwickshire
Smith - Walsall/Perry Barr/Handsworth
Makepeace - Coventry/Northamptonshire
Hands - Warks
Taylor - Warks
Salmon - Warks
Upton - Birmingham
Fawdry - Warwickshire
Ridlington - Lincolsnhire, Cambridgeshire

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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 June 22 12:01 BST (UK) »
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Probably the Marines were stationed in Warrington?.

I think your question has been answered, but the Marines would be less likely to be stationed in Warrington than in Manchester, I guess they just moved around.  Of course, during WW2, the American GIs were stationed at Burtonwood which is fairly near to Warrington.

At the same time as your ancestor was moving round UK whilst in the marines, my Scottish 4 x g.grandfather was moving from Midlothian, Scotland, to Boston, Lincolnshire, then to Norfolk and Essex.  He was in the Fifeshire Cavalry.