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Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« on: Tuesday 31 December 19 10:54 GMT (UK) »
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coming back to family history after a while! trying to put flesh on the bones of my ancestors. Trying to work out what/why would my 5 x g.grandfather Edward Porter a Marine based in Portsmouth and originally from Herefordshire be in Manchester/Blackley area in the first half of 1794? Where he met and married Alice Collinge (a weaver from Blackley) on 14 June 1794 in Manchester cathedral. The only reason i can think is the Marines were stationed in the area but why - what was going on? Cant imagine he'd be there for fun? Anyone with knowledge of details of Manchester for that year could throw any light on it? many thanks
Wood - Worcestershire
Porter - Coventry & Birmingham
Ward - Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire
Green - Birmingham
Stanbra - Birmingham & India
Law -Birmingham
Rabbit - BIRMINGHAM & Ireland & Canada
Jones - Worcestershire
Duffin - Warwickshire
Smith - Walsall/Perry Barr/Handsworth
Makepeace - Coventry/Northamptonshire
Hands - Warks
Taylor - Warks
Salmon - Warks
Upton - Birmingham
Fawdry - Warwickshire
Ridlington - Lincolsnhire, Cambridgeshire

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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 December 19 11:04 GMT (UK) »
The marriage was by Licence, and it does say on the register entry that Edward Porter was "of this Parish and Town of Manch'r" which suggests to me that he was perhaps home on leave.  :-\
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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 December 19 11:13 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 December 19 11:17 GMT (UK) »
He may have been a recruiting sergeant. A corps of marines was raised in Manchester in 1793.
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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 December 19 12:11 GMT (UK) »
The idea he was recruiting sounds possible. He didnt leave the Marines until 1814 and didnt stay in Manchester as their first son was christened in Warrington 10 months later. Probably the Marines were stationed in Warrington?. His wife Alice seemed to move to Coventry by the time their next 2 sons were born in 1804 & 1808. Have no idea why but only can presume a weaving connection. Edward was still in this Marines during this time so must have been on active duty although havnt been able to discover where/what the 23 division of Portsmouth division were doing?
Wood - Worcestershire
Porter - Coventry & Birmingham
Ward - Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire
Green - Birmingham
Stanbra - Birmingham & India
Law -Birmingham
Rabbit - BIRMINGHAM & Ireland & Canada
Jones - Worcestershire
Duffin - Warwickshire
Smith - Walsall/Perry Barr/Handsworth
Makepeace - Coventry/Northamptonshire
Hands - Warks
Taylor - Warks
Salmon - Warks
Upton - Birmingham
Fawdry - Warwickshire
Ridlington - Lincolsnhire, Cambridgeshire

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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 December 19 15:29 GMT (UK) »
There was a war on.  :) People moved all over the place.
There's a website called "Soldiers, Sailors and Strangers" or similar. It's a compilation of baptisms of children born away from their fathers' usual abode at that time.
Alice may have been in Coventry because her husband was stationed there.
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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 December 19 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for the information & brilliant help. I had never found links to the marriage bond and licence before so not known about them before.
Wood - Worcestershire
Porter - Coventry & Birmingham
Ward - Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire
Green - Birmingham
Stanbra - Birmingham & India
Law -Birmingham
Rabbit - BIRMINGHAM & Ireland & Canada
Jones - Worcestershire
Duffin - Warwickshire
Smith - Walsall/Perry Barr/Handsworth
Makepeace - Coventry/Northamptonshire
Hands - Warks
Taylor - Warks
Salmon - Warks
Upton - Birmingham
Fawdry - Warwickshire
Ridlington - Lincolsnhire, Cambridgeshire

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Re: Manchester area 1794 why would Marines be in the area?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 December 19 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Glad you found the Licence and Bond information helpful.  Always very useful for pre-1837 marriages due to the additional information related to bride and groom.  They are usually, if they survive, to be found at the Archives where the Diocesan records are held.   :)
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