Births

[jonwarrn]

You can just select the one with Jemima Smith mother Morris on there and order it as a pdf for £7 or the more expensive certificate.

[wendyandrews]

Thank you so much for your help, I've just ordered the pdf.

[jonwarrn]

Good luck!

[wendyandrews]

In addition to the fact that there were two Jemima Smiths born in same quarter and same district, they were both born on the same day! I forgot to mention that earlier. I know that my Jemima was born on 8th May, and when the wrong birth cert arrived last year for the other Jemima, her birthday was also that date. Without having got my DNA matches I'd have been none the wiser!

[Andrew Tarr]

You can just select the one with Jemima Smith mother Morris on there and order it as a pdf for £7 or the more expensive certificate.

And when you see the 'other' certificate, with both mothers at the same address, the situation will become clear    Is it possible that admission of the missing father meant that a second registration was made as the first could not be amended?

[wendyandrews]

Andrew, I had wondered that, but really can't see how it would be the case given that I have dna links with someone from the Morris family to go by now, which is the maiden name of Eliza who was married to Joseph Smith, and I know that these were the parents of the correct Jemima Smith. I already have the other cert, no address on it, and mother given as Frances Ann Smith, which coincidentally was the name of Joseph Smiths 16 year old sister (maybe it was this Frances who had a baby on the same day as her sister in law, and called by the same name, Jemima being the name of Joseph and Frances's mother). There's an awful lot of coincidences which led me to jump to conclusions but I don't see how they could be the same baby.

[Meelystar]

Unless the father is a Morris? It’s a big coincidence. Jemima is not a particularly common name and within the same family too! It would be interesting to see if the addresses on both certificates were the same.

[Andrew Tarr]

There's an awful lot of coincidences which led me to jump to conclusions but I don't see how they could be the same baby.

I don't believe in extreme coincidences - same name, date, everything else; plus missing address.  Might this be the child of the 16-year-old, registered once falsely and after reflection correctly? Don't forget that GRO registrations are collected locally for three months and then collated at Head Office, so there is plenty of time for that to happen.  I doubt that you might conclude anything from which has been recorded first, but perhaps others here know better ?

[wendyandrews]

Andrew,
I'm tending to think you may be correct, it does seem awfully strange, and I've just had a very quick look on the 1891 census and can only see one Jemima Smith that fits (need to check deaths now, just in case). It's just weird that I have the Morris DNA but Eliza did have brothers so that would perhaps be a possibility as to who the father could have been, although I'm never really going to know.