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« on: Thursday 19 December 19 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello, this may be a silly question but in the birth record indexes on freebmd and also on Durham's online index are the volume and page numbers unique to a single person? If there are two of the same name next to each other with the same vol and page numbers can I safely assume it is an error in the records?
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Suffolk: Partridge, Prince.
Durham: Peart, Weetman, Straughan.
Northumberland: Charlton, Percival, Allison.
Cornwall: Olver

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Re: Births
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 December 19 20:06 GMT (UK) »
No they are not unique - there are several to a page. Two people of exactly the same details next to each other may be an indexing error - is that what you mean?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Births
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 December 19 20:09 GMT (UK) »
No the vol page numbers can cover a lot of people,  a quick example searching for Jones throws up two Ellen jones with the same vol, same page and same reg. district.

If it’s a very uncommon name and identical in every respect then it’s possible it might be an error or a dual registration.

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Re: Births
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 December 19 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that's exactly what I mean, two Jemima Smiths next to each other with the same details. If it isn't an indexing error, when I bought the cert how would they have decided which one to send?
Suffolk: Partridge, Prince.
Durham: Peart, Weetman, Straughan.
Northumberland: Charlton, Percival, Allison.
Cornwall: Olver

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Re: Births
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 December 19 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: wendyandrews on Thursday 19 December 19 20:14 GMT (UK)
Yes, that's exactly what I mean, two Jemima Smiths next to each other with the same details. If it isn't an indexing error, when I bought the cert how would they have decided which one to send?

Do they have exactly the same details including (from GRO Online) mother’s maiden name?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Births
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 December 19 20:22 GMT (UK) »
There's the new GRO birth index to check

SMITH, JEMIMA       
Mother's Maiden Surname: — 
GRO Reference: 1885  J Quarter in EASINGTON  Volume 10A  Page 446

SMITH, JEMIMA       
Mother's Maiden Surname: MORRIS 
GRO Reference: 1885  J Quarter in EASINGTON  Volume 10A  Page 446

The dash for mother's maiden name suggests illegitimate.

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Re: Births
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 December 19 20:26 GMT (UK) »
Baptism, 20 May 1885, Wingate (Jamima here)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQVK-TNY
Parents Joseph and Eliza

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Re: Births
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 December 19 20:32 GMT (UK) »
This is very interesting, when I applied for the birth cert they sent me the one for the illegitimate Jemima, whose mother just happened to have the same name as Joseph's younger sister, so I then assumed that Joseph and Eluza had "adopted" the baby. All makes sense now as I've been puzzling all day as to why my DNA results just received are linking to members of Eliza's family! How do I go about getting the correct cert now, is there a box to fill in on GRO for mothers maiden name?
Suffolk: Partridge, Prince.
Durham: Peart, Weetman, Straughan.
Northumberland: Charlton, Percival, Allison.
Cornwall: Olver

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Re: Births
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 December 19 20:34 GMT (UK) »
This has solved my DNA problem, now I just need to amend my tree (again!)
Suffolk: Partridge, Prince.
Durham: Peart, Weetman, Straughan.
Northumberland: Charlton, Percival, Allison.
Cornwall: Olver
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