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Re: Abbreviation 1880s military record
« Reply #9 on: Monday 16 December 19 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Hello Gents - and thanks!
I am trying to find out what happened to my 2x Gt Grandfather (William) Charles Salter. He was a Private in the Rifle Brigade from 1871. He served in Ireland (where he married) and was imprisoned in Winchester for desertion in early 1876 (my Gt Grandmother was supposedly born in June of that year in Manchester. The record is for a Private Charles Salter ref South African Campaign - medal roll, as suggested. I haven’t posted the whole image because Rootschat says it’s too large and I have no means of reducing it apart from cropping.
By 1891 Charles was dead. My assumption is that he died in service, but I cannot find out where he OR his family were between 1876 and 1891 (actually do not have any knowledge of his wife Mary Carroll or daughter Mary Ellen’s whereabouts until 1891 - not even a birth registration).
I really don’t know whether this record COULD be Charles or not. I am looking for possibilities.
Margaret

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Re: Abbreviation 1880s military record
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 December 19 07:04 GMT (UK) »
It seems likely that he was 2057 Private Charles Salter who served with the Rifle Brigade in the third Ashanti War (1873-1874). His entry on the medal roll is marked "deserted".

Added: The 1876 prison record confirms his army number:

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Re: Abbreviation 1880s military record
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 December 19 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Shaun.
I did get someone to research for me at the Rifle Brigade museum, but I didn’t get THAT information!
They did reckon that he would’ve rejoined his regiment (although I think they were in Gibraltar when he was released, so they weren’t too sure what would’ve happened).
I don’t have military record access, which makes things harder... as does the fact that he married in Ireland (although his marriage registration DID survive - Church of Ireland).
I really appreciate your assistance
Margaret

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Re: Abbreviation 1880s military record
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 17 December 19 09:20 GMT (UK) »
You might want to consider a visit to the National Archives to track his army career through the Rifle Brigade muster books and paylists. 

 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_p=1800&_q=rifle+brigade+muster+%222nd+battalion%22

He's not in Gibraltar's database of military deaths http://www.nationalarchives.gi/gna/MilitaryDeaths_1869-1914.aspx
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Re: Abbreviation 1880s military record
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 17 December 19 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Just to tidy up a loose end. 

The clip you posted at the beginning is from the medal roll for the 80th Foot in the South Africa 1877-1879 campaign with the particular entry being for 1889 Charles Salter of that regiment.

ShaunJ has almost certainly found the right one!

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Re: Abbreviation 1880s military record
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 17 December 19 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Already had someone check records at TNA for me. It turned up NOTHING....  :(

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Re: Abbreviation 1880s military record
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 17 December 19 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Did they check through the muster books and paylists? He will be listed there until he died or left the army.

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Re: Abbreviation 1880s military record
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 17 December 19 14:40 GMT (UK) »
They couldn’t find any CONCLUSION... I was left with no more intel!