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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #117 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:42 GMT (UK) »
No problems, JM,
Information for the death cert for Mary's husband was filled out by his son-in-law;  many of the details are incorrect, including parents' names but the names of all the children (then adults) are correctly listed, and their ages, though the illegit child is not mentioned and it is marked "none dead".   The marriage is incorrectly stated as 33 years (should be 34), he is not described as a widower, but his wife's name is given as Bridget Murphy.   I have traced his burial at Rookwood.   He died of Apoplexy Hemiphlegia (stroke) - a fairly common fate of his offspring.   Having both parents mentioned in second son's death probably means Mary's boys who, were older when she left, remembered and passed on more to their families than the son-in-law's learned or bothered to remember.   I'm still left with trying to winkle out where Mary was buried.   Was she still alive when Thomas died?   She would have been 52.   Did she survive syphillis with a long period of latency?   Was she confined to a hospital?

Do you have marriage certs for each of those children, if so, please type up the info that each one provided about their mum, and the year that child married ie the year that info about their mum was being provided.   If marrying in NSW, it was not a requirement until 1899 for the clergy to enquire if either parent was no longer living, but it was definitely a requirement for the clergy to ask for the names of each parent, the occupation of the father, and for the mother's maiden name if known.  In NSW there was a penalty of £500 for giving false information on marriage  8)

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #118 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:43 GMT (UK) »
My Rookwood disc does not function on my current puter ... wrong OS etc.

I had been promised by various supposed technocrats that it would, but ... nope.

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #119 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:49 GMT (UK) »
I can check when it cools down. No A/C in computer room.

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #120 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:50 GMT (UK) »
" and now Thomas was not buried Roman Catholic, but OP has assured us that they were Roman Catholic as they married RC in New Zealand..."

Thomas was born and died a protestant:  they were married, according to certificate, by an RC priest but not in Church  ie "at the residence of the parties."
Since Mary and Thomas were separated, Mary could have been buried as an RC but Thomas is not described as a widower.   Suggests Mary was still alive in 1901 wherever she was - unless it was not usual to describe the decedents "condition."

NSW BDM death cert,  column 3 would give 'occupation' as Widow if a female death, but if you read the column headings carefully, no requirement for 'Widower' even back on 1864 era d.c.

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #121 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Mary allowed her baby to be buried Presbyterian, in 1882, so I am actually doubting that Mary was Roman Catholic.  It simply does not 'add up' ...

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #122 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:53 GMT (UK) »
Looks like 2 daughters married the WONNOCOTT brothers, 1895 and 1896.

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #123 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:56 GMT (UK) »
JM, sorry no do not have all marriage certificates.   Cousin in NZ has the latest one for Amelia Laura who married 1896.   Eldest daughter married in 1895 - and I too am having computer problems and cannot call up the copies of the middle daughter.   Eldest and youngest daughter married two brothers;  one went to NZ, one stayed in Sydney and then went to America
MINTON, MURPHY,  SHEPHARD/SHEPHERD, WHITEOAK, WONNOCOTT,
WOOD, HARRIS.

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #124 on: Monday 09 December 19 08:02 GMT (UK) »
Maria WONNOCOTT died 1916 and is buried Rookwood CofE

2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15670250

1618/1916 WONNOCOTT Maria parents Thomas and Mary

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #125 on: Monday 09 December 19 08:05 GMT (UK) »
Another sister married 1893 to William F SHEPHARD. She is recorded twice as Arabella G and Isabella G.

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