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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #108 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:00 GMT (UK) »
Quick question - did Aus have Contagious Diseases Acts as in Uk - esp the one where women could be confined in hospital and treated against their will?
The thing with Minton is that he is on record in newspapers;  Edward Foley is not.   Minton is also on Australharmony and at the Mitchell Library.

1880s ... errr ... Australia was not federated until 1901, so no Australian Parliament, so no Australian Acts...  The seven colonies each had their own parliaments so they would have had opportunities at colonial levels to address Contagious Diseases Acts.   May I offer the following live links:  http://www.austlii.edu.au/  and for NSW V & P there's NSW Hansard & House papers : https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/hansard/pages/home.aspx?tab=Browse&s=1 goes back to 1856 etc..

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #109 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:14 GMT (UK) »
I have not been following this for a while, but I assume you have ETs arrest in Townsville. He was living in HILL END NSW, also.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article251601985

4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article123619445

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #110 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:16 GMT (UK) »
Was Thomas MINTON buried in Roman Catholic section at Rookwood?

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #111 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Was Thomas MINTON buried in Roman Catholic section at Rookwood?

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Not according to their online search.

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #112 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Yes, well found Jamjar.

I have recently discovered earlier threads, so sadly I have been duplicating,  ::)  ::) wasting RChat servers' space etc.

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #113 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:23 GMT (UK) »
No JM your replies have led forward to other things we haven't considered.   Thomas is buried in Protestant section.
Yes, Jamjar, we did have the info about E.T.Foley being arrested in Qld and JM gave the info about Hill end.   It's just hard to know where it leads.   No-one seems to have claimed Edward Foley, or E.T. Foley whether or not they are the same person;  and Mary is elusive as ever.   See my amended post.
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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #114 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks JJ,  so infant born and died 1882, buried Presbyterian, but our OP is sure that baby was illegitimate birth, although the NSW BDM birth and death cert lists her lawful husband as father of that baby... FOUR of the Minton children (of Thomas and Mary) were admitted to Destitute Asylum in 1877 and reclaimed in 1878 (both admit and reclaim by Thomas only, no mention of Mary) and their 'Religion' listed as Prot ... I am sure that is Protestant standard abbreviation on those Asylum records.... and now Thomas was not buried Roman Catholic, but OP has assured us that they were Roman Catholic as they married RC in New Zealand...

Very confusing, but basically our OP wants to find burial of Mary who gave birth to a baby girl at 20 Exeter Place, Sydney (off Elizabeth Street down Surry Hills end) in November 1882.   Mary may have had an extra-marital with E T FOLEY, but I have not found anything to confirm that as yet.

Hope that covers the short version.   :)  E Townsend FOLEY was transitted back to Townsville but seems to have returned to NSW by around 1880s...  Perhaps had lease on the Old Domain Baths when it had a natural sand/beach base and boardwalks around perimeter for customers to jump/dive off into water of varying depths...

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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #115 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:36 GMT (UK) »
" and now Thomas was not buried Roman Catholic, but OP has assured us that they were Roman Catholic as they married RC in New Zealand..."

Thomas was born and died a protestant:  they were married, according to certificate, by an RC priest but not in Church  ie "at the residence of the parties."
Since Mary and Thomas were separated, Mary could have been buried as an RC but Thomas is not described as a widower.   Suggests Mary was still alive in 1901 wherever she was - unless it was not usual to describe the decedents "condition."
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Re: Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« Reply #116 on: Monday 09 December 19 07:37 GMT (UK) »
The short version is good.

Have you checked the Rookwood headstone disc?

When did Mary and Thomas die?

Did they have a daughter Maria?

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