Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley

[majm]

358 Elizabeth Street, so Exeter Place would likely be very close to that.

NSW Electoral Roll 1878  EAST SYDNEY
Thomas S FOLEY, residence, 358 Elizabeth Street.

add,  as yet, I have not found Edward Townsend FOLEY on any of these rolls,  fingers crossed NSW State Library has the 1880s rolls. 

ADD, here's the FOLEY mentions for what was then 'metropolitan' Sydney
NSW Electoral Rolls 1878, all surnamed FOLEY
Note: qualification for eligibility to enrol include : freehold, leasehold, household, residence, room, shop, office,

EAST SYDNEY
John, household, 49 Campbell St
Lawrence, household, Little Bloomfield Street
Thomas S, residence 358 Elizabeth  Street

WEST SYDNEY
Bartholomew, Glebe, store 115 Sussex Street
Dennis, Glebe, shop, 115 Sussex Street
Henry, residence 115 Sussex Street
John, Day’s Yard, household, off Clarence St
John, household, 21 Howard Street
John Joseph, household 157 Cumberland Street
Stephen, leasehold, 16 Railway Place

CANTERBURY
James, residence At Hancock’s, Botany
John, freehold, Nelson Street Annandale
Archer, residence at Tucker’s, Cook’s River Road
Denis A, household, Burwood Road, Burwood

THE GLEBE
Bartholomew, residence Forest Street, Glebe

NEWTOWN
Cornelius, freehold, Camperdown Road
John, household, Albemarle St, Newtown

PADDINGTON
William FOLEY, leasehold, George Street, Waterloo

ST LEONARDS (JM notes this was a huge area, covering north side basically from say Manly oceanside through to Parramatta and up to Pittwater etc…)
Thomas, freehold, St Leonards
David,  Country freehold, St Leonards

Just in case the above is of use to others at some time in the future

JM

[majm]

2 m 3 f living - I'm actually surprised that Mary bothered to name her husband on the illegit birth.cert.   Because she did it after the babe was dead - no chance of claiming he was the father and sueing for maintenance.

The question she would likely have been asked could be 'what is the name of your husband'  rather than 'what is the name of the baby's father'.   

JM

[odysseyov]

The question she would likely have been asked could be 'what is the name of your husband'  rather than 'what is the name of the baby's father'.   


Yes, and since the poor child was dead, she would not have gained by registering it under the real father's name anyway.

[odysseyov]

Re Foleys - I think one of them had a pub;  I remember vaguely that he was fined for allowing prostitutes on his premises.

[majm]

NSW Electoral Rolls 1878, all surnamed MINTON
Note: qualification for eligibility to enrol include : freehold, leasehold, household, residence, room, shop, office,

EAST SYDNEY
NO Minton listing

WEST SYDNEY
NO Minton listing.   (JM notes I recall earlier post I typed up  Minton, but the electoral roll has Thomas MILTON, household 2 Windmill Street)

CANTERBURY
NO Minton listing

THE GLEBE
NO Minton listing

NEWTOWN
NO Minton listing

PADDINGTON
NOPE

ST LEONARDS
Nope


Perhaps in 1878 Edward Townsend FOLEY and Thomas MINTON  both knew that in 2019 there would be people looking for their shadows and so they made sure they were well hidden.


JM

[majm]

The question she would likely have been asked could be 'what is the name of your husband'  rather than 'what is the name of the baby's father'.   


Yes, and since the poor child was dead, she would not have gained by registering it under the real father's name anyway.

   and she would likely have been there with the funeral director's officers and likely simply allowed them to help her answer those questions... prompting with broad questions rather than the direct ones that would be faced today.  JM

[odysseyov]

Quick question - did Aus have Contagious Diseases Acts as in Uk - esp the one where women could be confined in hospital and treated against their will?
The thing with Minton is that he is on record in newspapers;  Edward Foley is not.   Minton is also on Australharmony and at the Mitchell Library.

[majm]

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=703631.0

I am duplicating info I have previously typed up.  Sorry.

JM

[odysseyov]

No problems, JM,
Information for the death cert for Mary's husband was filled out by his son-in-law;  many of the details are incorrect, including parents' names but the names of all the children (then adults) are correctly listed, and their ages, though the illegit child is not mentioned and it is marked "none dead".   The marriage is incorrectly stated as 33 years (should be 34), he is not described as a widower, but his wife's name is given as Bridget Murphy.   I have traced his burial at Rookwood.   He died of Apoplexy Hemiphlegia (stroke) - a fairly common fate of his offspring.   Having both parents mentioned in second son's death probably means Mary's boys who, were older when she left, remembered and passed on more to their families than the son-in-law's learned or bothered to remember.   I'm still left with trying to winkle out where Mary was buried.   Was she still alive when Thomas died?   She would have been 52.   Did she survive syphillis with a long period of latency?   Was she confined to a hospital?