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Re: Establish my father's father
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 December 19 09:18 GMT (UK) »
My great grandmother used to take in boarded children; there are 2 there with her in the 1911 census, and elderly relatives who knew her tell of others (some lived with her themselves intermittently). One of the waifs was illegitimate and then orphaned apparently and became a permanent member of the family. She lived in a large house with plenty of space and I've been told that she did this as a source of income. I suspect that was the case for most children boarded out outside their families.
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Re: Establish my father's father
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 December 19 09:30 GMT (UK) »
There was no formal adoption until late 1920s (1927?).

Theres no Avenue that way, unfortunately.

Although there was no formal adoption there was a procedure for guardianship. There may be a paper trail in the parish chest or through poor law paperwork.
For example
http://anguline.co.uk/cert/gc.jpg

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Boarders eat with the family and have their meals provided (sometimes a clue to a close connection with the family).
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Re: Establish my father's father
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 December 19 17:18 GMT (UK) »
"Boarding out" was a type of foster care for orphaned and deserted children:
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/boardingout/
In this case you might find some local records (survival of records is very area-dependant though).

There also might be earlier records if he was born in a workhouse infirmary and/or he and his mother moved through the system together before he was boarded out.
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Re: Establish my father's father
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 December 19 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Cathy
There is a linkage somewhere, if I can find it!  My Dad boarded in Camberley and his mother lived only 5 miles away.  Still looking!  Clive


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Re: Establish my father's father
« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 December 19 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jorose

That's fascinating information.  Thanks you.
Clive

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Re: Establish my father's father
« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 December 19 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Have a look through the Petty Session records.

If the Mother sought financial support from the Father the PS is a route to gain said support.

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Re: Establish my father's father
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 07 December 19 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Clive,

There is some information about poor law records in Surrey including a few online records (might not cover your area/dates) here:
https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/culture-and-leisure/history-centre/researchers/guides/poor-law-records

If his mother was still in the picture it might be that she had to board him out in order to work. For example live-in domestic servants usually lost their employment if found to be pregnant and would not be able to get a similar position with a child in tow. In this case she might have been paying his room and board while she worked so he could stay relatively near her.

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Re: Establish my father's father
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 07 December 19 09:25 GMT (UK) »
If you haven’t already done so, you could try something like the My Heritage auto cluster tool to group your matches. In theory, you should/may be able to find matches who do not fit with your known branches therefore should/may be from your grandfather’s line.