Death of Thomas Arrowsmith

[rosie99]

I would like to state I do actually have some of the certificates IE the last born child......

Was Thomas the informant

[fastfusion]

Thomas died before 18th Sept 1942 . He was a Skip & Basket Maker on Franks 2nd marriage cert...... and we should consider ol Frank may not have told truth [ as he did lie about other things , in general he was fairly determined to get what he wanted no matter who was involved ] so the affirmation comes with Violets 2nd marriage cert.....which I will obtain...........   I will at this point probably rule out Suffolk material as occupation changed whereas everything I am seeing shows Thomas to retain one occupation .... skip and basket maker.

We did investigate a possible for Australia for ol' Thomas but there were problems  when looked at finely....   so I discounted him moving away from Leigh /Bolton area.....   

Rosie>  got to dig it out..... that could take a while....my notes are about 1 metre  along shelf

[rosie99]

Thomas died before 18th Sept 1942 .

How do you know that

[fastfusion]

I read the last columns on Franks 2nd marriage certificate.......and then took the date of the certificate to make the presumption.   Also written on cert was Franks address> 25 Ingleborough Rd Lancaster with 14652484 Signalman RSG of Signals; radio dealer. Stella Wilson was also of the same abode at time of marriage.

Q. What does RSG stand for?


Noting also from my notes.......   I had scribbled down the following but cant find the original from which I sourced it from....  [Could this be Thomas??] " LN Lancs Pte Thomas  Arrowsmith ; age 33;    31.7.15 [1] - C1Z ,- 29.3.19 ......No 28944 moved on to East Surrey Regiment WW1 1914 - 15 Star  "   
By my calculation though, the note would suggest a Thomas born circa 1883 - 86..... Does one have to be dead to get 1914 - 15 Star?.........


Q.  Certificates for Ulverston / Barrow in Furness do not seem to appear on LancsBMD or church details for that area do not appear on Lancs OPC....  is there a website that has transcripts or definitives?  I dont really know about that area so any help is appreciated... I have looked through "resources" but can't see any references to sites...

[rosie99]

Ulverston is on Lancsopc
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/cgi-bin/mkindx.cgi?parish=Ulverston&type=Parish&community=

Cumbria BMD has entries for BM&D Barrow reg dist & M&D Millom reg disthttp://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/

I think you may mean 1943
Marriages Sep qtr 1943   
Frank Arrowsmith   
Stella Wilson   
Lancaster    8e   1579

Sorry I can't help with service information

[fastfusion]

sorry twas 1943......    link coming up server error   but thankfully the cumbria bmd has gleaned a push on the Stella Wilson lineage......
 
Robinson born abt 1836 Lancs to Ann X? then 2nd marriage widowed to Mary Foy/Tait in 1889 at B-i-F RO? issue to next generation >William [of 1st marriage ]born abt 1860 and  spouse Mary J Heathcock married at Millom in 1881.
Of Heathcock issue to Edith Florence at Bootle 1882, with William 1884, Robinson 1886, Susan 1888, Cedric 1890, Lawrence Barlow 1892, Water [probably Walter]1894, Theodosia 1897, John Henry 1899, and Clarence 1906 all of Dalton.
Robinson the younger to Jane Grundy issue to my grandmother[deceased]with sibs//// but Robinson could have married Mary Gilbert/Rodda in 1908 . 

the record showing wife of Robinson born 1836 seems to be illusive.....Ann Isabella Orrick  ??
looking at early gen seems to show jeramiah and jane [Chester ?] as line above for Robinson 1836?
the early census 1841 and 51 seem to be illusive.......

[IMBER]

RSG of Signals? Could it be a misinterpretation of Royal Corps of Signals?

Imber

[chempat]

I would be interested in B O L T O N electoral rolls as well HOWEVER anc only has only Liverpool so unless I am missing something that avenue is a waste of time.

I would like to state I do actually have some of the certificates IE the last born child......

https://www.boltonlams.co.uk/archives/archives-indexes/election-registers

[fastfusion]

Great link for electoral material .....   shame they dont have all the material in pdf format online...  unfortunately I am sitting in East Gippsland and cant get to the reading room but oh if I could