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Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« on: Thursday 28 November 19 15:13 GMT (UK) »
I am searching for the ancestral line of Charles Hawkey born about 1821 probably in Liverpool but I am wondering whether his father, named James in his marriage record, came from the Cornwall Hawkeys?

Charles married Ann Waterhouse in 1838 in Liverpool. They had two boys: John in 1840 and Charles in 1841 both in Liverpool.

I think (though not sure) that this particular family fell apart after the death of head of the household, Charles sr who might have been the death recorded in Liverpool of 1843 (under Haukey). I find the boys in the 1851 census attending an Industrial Poor School in Liverpool both under the name Hanley and with odd ages (probably guessed at) and both separated from each other. No trace of their mother, Ann but I think she might be an emmigrant to US in 1845, without the boys, obviously.

Later the younger boy, Charles, appears in the 1881 census as a servant in Glass House Farm, Wolstanton, Staffs.

I have dismissed a census from 1861 with a widowed fishmonger Ann because of the presence of another very young Charles (7 yo). Surely she would not have given the same name to another child?
     
Anyway - any help tracing this family to its roots would be very happily received.

Best wishes
Amanda Stone-Williams

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Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 November 19 15:24 GMT (UK) »

I think (though not sure) that this particular family fell apart after the death of head of the household, Charles sr who might have been the death recorded in Liverpool of 1843 (under Haukey).


The GRO index has the 1843 death as
HANKEY, CHARLES       AGE 2
1843  June Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 20  Page 295
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Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 November 19 15:50 GMT (UK) »
ah ok - so this death is a child. That is helpful. Thank you loads.

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Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 November 19 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Hawkey or Hankey?
Marriage of Charles (indexed as Hankey) and Ann at Liverpool St Philip, 13.7.1838
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ9-XYWS?i=407&cat=673916

1841 census LIverpool image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9GF-YQML?i=268&cat=510508

Baptism of Charles,11.1.1841 (poor image!)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D154-MM?i=628&cat=122430

On the BT Charles is very bottom of left hand page, looks like Hankey
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6RSD-2C?i=384&cat=559776


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Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 November 19 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Double baptism at St Philip, 16 Feb 1846
John, born 7(?) April 1842
Ann Jane, born 31 January 1846

Father Charles a Porter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-65G2-QC?i=869&cat=122430

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Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 November 19 15:58 GMT (UK) »
John,
Can you decipher what his father James occupation is on the marriage I can't make sense of it.

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Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 November 19 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Yes those two births are contenders now the 1843 death has been ruled out. BUT they are the family that appear in the census of 1861 which have the very young Charles.

I have a photo of the marriage of Anne W and Charles and it looks like Hawkey to me but I can see this is a tricky one to transcribe.

The 1841 census you posted is the one I am taking to be the correct one. With Charles at 5 months old.



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Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 November 19 16:01 GMT (UK) »
The occupation of his father, James is a Warehouseman.

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Re: Charles Hawkey b abt 1821.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 November 19 16:01 GMT (UK) »
I think James' occupation might be warehouseman?
But I haven't caught up with 1861 yet.

A death in same quarter as Charles
HANKEY, JAMES       
Age at Death (in years): 3 
GRO Reference: 1843  J Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 20  Page 285

Is it James, 1, in that 1841 image?