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Re: Agnes Garvin; b:1898;
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Christopher’s birth was registered as Catterall (mmn Garvin), Jun qtr 1885 Blackburn.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Agnes Garvin; b:1898;
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Catherine Garvin m Christopher Catterall, Sep qtr 1877 Preston (reg office or reg attended).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Agnes Garvin; b:1898;
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Sub district on Lancs BMD for Christopher Catterall's birth simply shown as Blackburn.
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Re: Agnes Garvin; b:1898;
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 19:55 GMT (UK) »
I'm assuming something has happened in the marriage. There's some other children in the family in 1891, including an Elizabeth aged 2. There's an Elizabeth Alice Garvin (no mmn) born the right time


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Re: Agnes Garvin; b:1898;
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 20:03 GMT (UK) »
There's also a Charles - here's his baptism

12 Oct 1878 St Mary RC, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Charles Caterall - Filius Christopher Caterall & Kate (formerly Garvin)
Born: 8 Oct 1878
Godparents: Thomas Purt; Mary Rogers

PLus another

9 Jan 1887 St Mary RC, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
William Catterall - Filius Christopher Thornber Catterall & Catherine (formerly Garvin)
Born: 1 Jan 1887
Godparents: Robert Burns; Mgt. Ann Garvin

So looks like it may have been between 1887 and 1889

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Re: Agnes Garvin; b:1898;
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Charles and Agnes are with mother in 1911

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Re: Agnes Garvin; b:1898;
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Wow this is great
Thank you

If anyone is agnes's (step/estranged) father then, are you saying it could be Christopher cattrall? Is that her mums ex?

Blackburn area is certainly more plausible than Wigan as far as agnes is concerned

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Re: Agnes Garvin; b:1898;
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 21:57 GMT (UK) »
sng -- it would be worthwhile obtaining the birth certificate found by Rosie earlier -- she was born as Agnes Catterall with a mother's maiden name of Garvin in 1896 Blackburn Reg Dist.

Just in case you don't know you can order a pdf copy from General Register Office for £7. This gives exactly the same information as a normal birth cert. All the associated evidence - such as baptism confirms that Christopher Catterall was father and Catherine nee Garvin was her mother.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

If you haven't ordered from General Register Office before you will need to register first, otherwise just log in. Then go to 'search the on line GRO index' - input search details - when result appears - tick the box on the left hand side and order a PDF copy.

Having the birth cert itself gives definite proof.
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Re: Agnes Garvin; b:1898;
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 26 November 19 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Wow this is great
Thank you

If anyone is agnes's (step/estranged) father then, are you saying it could be Christopher cattrall? Is that her mums ex?

Blackburn area is certainly more plausible than Wigan as far as Agnes is concerned

No, I more think that Christopher is off the scene in around 1888/9 (given Elizabeth is registered as Garvin) and is very unlikely to be  Agnes' father, given none is named on her baptism.  If you get to see an image of the 1911 census, the years married listed by Catherine (Cathrine on Ancestry) would support him not being Agnes' father