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Carl Gotthelf Hofmann & Charlotte Alvina Shafer
« on: Thursday 21 November 19 04:16 GMT (UK) »
Looking for parents & siblings (lf any) of Carl Gotthelf Hofman born 19 November 1842 possibly in Zwickau, Saxony, and his wife Charlotte Alvina Shafer born 15 June 1840.
Emigrated to Melbourne Australia on the Liguria around 1880 / 1883.
Any info very much appreciated as I've hit the proverbial brick wall!

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Re: Carl Gotthelf Hofmann & Charlotte Alvina Shafer
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 November 19 04:29 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.

Looking for parents & siblings (lf any) of Carl Gotthelf Hofman born 19 November 1842 possibly in Zwickau, Saxony, and his wife Charlotte Alvina Shafer born 15 June 1840.
Emigrated to Melbourne Australia on the Liguria around 1880 / 1883.
Any info very much appreciated as I've hit the proverbial brick wall!

They arrived 1880:

40   385   NOV   -   6   B   LIGURIA   1880   HOFFMAN, CHARLOTTE
38   385   NOV   -   6   B   LIGURIA   1880   HOFFMAN, CARL J
11   385   NOV   -   6   B   LIGURIA   1880   HOFFMAN, CARL M
10   385   NOV   -   6   B   LIGURIA   1880   HOFFMAN, BENJN
9   385   NOV   -   6   B   LIGURIA   1880   HOFFMAN, ALMA
8   385   NOV   -   6   B   LIGURIA   1880   HOFFMAN, MARIA
7   385   NOV   -   6   B   LIGURIA   1880   HOFFMAN, ALBIN

May be related:

34   381   JUN   -   3   B   LIGURIA   1880   HOFFMAN, JOHANN

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Re: Carl Gotthelf Hofmann & Charlotte Alvina Shafer
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 November 19 04:38 GMT (UK) »
Where did Charlotte and Carl die?

Did they move to Tasmania, first column?: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10104911

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Re: Carl Gotthelf Hofmann & Charlotte Alvina Shafer
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 November 19 05:07 GMT (UK) »
WOW!
Such a quick response...thank you.
Much appreciated :-)
Carl And Charlotte both died in Southern Tasmania:
Carl died 29 September 1922

Charlotte died  23 Nov 1914 in believe at New Norfolk Tasmania.

Can I ask where you found this information, and do you have any further info on Carl or Charlottes ancestors, where they lived (I believe Zwickau, but I think they lived elsewhere in Germany before Zwickau). etc?
They were my great grandparents, their daughter Alma being my grandmother.
Diference in spelling makes things difficult....Carl & Charlotte both spelt Hofmann with 1x"f" and 2x "NN".


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Re: Carl Gotthelf Hofmann & Charlotte Alvina Shafer
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 November 19 05:20 GMT (UK) »
Adelaide should be Adeline, daughter of the Cleavers, Bothwell Tasmania.
Apart from Zwickau, I also have Zwikien in Saxony...not sure if they are the same place or not as I haven't found a Zwikien, but certainly Zwickau exists.

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Re: Carl Gotthelf Hofmann & Charlotte Alvina Shafer
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 November 19 05:26 GMT (UK) »
Immigration from UNASSISTED passenger here: https://prov.vic.gov.au/

Pity they didn’t stay in VIC, as records are relatively easy to find.

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Re: Carl Gotthelf Hofmann & Charlotte Alvina Shafer
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 November 19 05:30 GMT (UK) »
In Memoriam for Carl, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article23701764

The mother’s death: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10394361

Folk searching may want to look for her as Alvina Charlotte Schafer.

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Re: Carl Gotthelf Hofmann & Charlotte Alvina Shafer
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 November 19 06:06 GMT (UK) »
What happened to the other children who arrived with them, who aren’t mentioned in the Memoriam?

Birth of their son Richard in TAS 1884, with mother’s mmn spelt SCHAFER:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99CH-4ZLQ?i=250&cc=2125029

Richard died in 1888.

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Re: Carl Gotthelf Hofmann & Charlotte Alvina Shafer
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 November 19 06:57 GMT (UK) »
Carl’s naturalisation, 16 April 1896, says he was from SAXONY, in the Empire of Germany. He moved to TAS in 28 February, 1883.

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