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Re: Barbara Lambton Holland OBE
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 November 19 15:42 GMT (UK) »
We aren't supposed to do 1939 look ups.
But I have taken a look at the original page, and there is a code number there. which consists of two letters and three numbers  :-X
There is a Rootchat thread about the very same code number in which it is suggested that this code relates to a change of name but not by marriage.
There is also a three letter code which relates to an enumeration district.

My feeling is that the name ‘Lambton’ on the register doesn't indicate a marriage, but the addition of an 'extra' name which was either notified to the authorities or which became known to them by some means or another.     
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Re: Barbara Lambton Holland OBE
« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 November 19 16:07 GMT (UK) »
As Barbara didn't marry, I dis suggest that Lambton may be the name of her partner?
Maybe the will will help identify.

N.B. "partner" could be male or female.
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Re: Barbara Lambton Holland OBE
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 November 19 16:40 GMT (UK) »
Wow!

Thanks everyone for your help.

I fell into the trap I warn other people not to, and that's to assume a name added to a 1939 entry is a marriage! I knew that it couldn't be as a result of her mother's re-marriage, otherwise her mother's name would have been amended too, and anyway, my research had already ruled that out. I never thought about adopting another surname element, and I must admit I haven't looked at her maternal side much at all, something I will now do, focussing rather on the Hollands. I had spotted the references to Miss on the passenger list and in the London Gazette, and must admit to being a bit confused about that, but I am well aware that sometimes married women prefer not to use Mrs. It does seem, however, that the Lambton part of her name is something she adopted herself. One day I'll make a note of the 1939 register codes and their meanings  ::)

I have contacted (eventually, after my initial email bounced as the email address on their website is wrong) the Ripon Gazette about Barbara's obituary, and await their reply. I will follow up the suggestion about contacting Ripon Grammar. Thanks to arthurk for the  magazine cutting - the only other I could find was on FindMyPast's newspaper search.
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Re: Barbara Lambton Holland OBE
« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 November 19 16:58 GMT (UK) »
The 1939 register shows Lambton written in as an extra forename (ie after Barbara), and Holland has not been deleted. Where someone changes their surname, the original one is deleted, and the new one is written above, and that's clearly not the case here.

So, as JenB has suggested, it seems she adopted Lambton as an extra forename - maybe in honour of her grandfather's family? (He seems to have died in 1945.) Or maybe she came across the name while doing FH and thought it sounded a bit more distinguished?


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Re: Barbara Lambton Holland OBE
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 November 19 23:20 GMT (UK) »
The Hockey Museum sadly has nothing available online. I've emailed Lizzie Richards at Bath to see if she can help, and in the meantime I'm also waiting for a copy of her will, and any information from the Ripon Gazette and Ripon Grammar.
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Re: Barbara Lambton Holland OBE
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Barbara Lambton Holland was my 2nd cousin once removed - I only discovered this relationship recently; I never knew her personally.  Her grandfather was Richard Lambton Brown, my great great uncle.

I have no idea where the Lambton name comes from but it certainly helped distinguish my Brown family from other Browns.

I have more details of the Brown family if anyone is interested.

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Re: Barbara Lambton Holland OBE
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 15:56 GMT (UK) »
P.S.

I have a txt version of the obit in the Ripon Gazette - please PM me if you would like a copy
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Jones, Mantle; Radnorshire
Russell, Stonehouse, Agar; Yorkshire/Durham
Brown, Fair; Durham,  
Little, Cumberland
Morris, Woolley, Owens; Montgomeryshire.

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Re: Barbara Lambton Holland OBE
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Barbara Lambton Holland was my 2nd cousin once removed - I only discovered this relationship recently; I never knew her personally.  Her grandfather was Richard Lambton Brown, my great great uncle.

I have no idea where the Lambton name comes from but it certainly helped distinguish my Brown family from other Browns.

I have more details of the Brown family if anyone is interested.

RuthieB

This seems to tie in with my suggestion in Post # 7
I'm not sure why the name Lambton has been added to the 1939 Register entry , but I think it's a family name from her mother's side.

Frank Holland  m Dora Brown 1925 Bedale 9D 947.

In the 1901 census in Knaresborough District

Richard L Brown
Jane Brown
George H Brown
Dora Brown 2

 RG13; Piece: 4049; Folio: 84; Page: 3

Richard Lambton Brown married Jane Hick 3Q 1893 Scarborough 9d 601

Certificates would confirm .

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Re: Barbara Lambton Holland OBE
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 20:33 GMT (UK) »
My father in law had the middle name Lambton, he was illegitimate but I am sure I have traced the mother's side and the generation before included Lambton for one son, both were given William as a first name, they were in Sunderland.
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