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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #27 on: Monday 28 April 25 14:04 BST (UK) »

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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #28 on: Monday 28 April 25 14:06 BST (UK) »
Robert's baptism in Brighton in 1801 is also free to view :)
Squeezed in right at the bottom of the left hand page.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=TNA%2FRG4%2F3423%2F0%2F0078&parentid=TNA%2FRG4%2FBAP%2F1127420

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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #29 on: Monday 28 April 25 14:17 BST (UK) »
It's also free to view at the moment on findmypast. You need to be registered and logged in.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=TNA%2FRG8%2F086%2F0%2F0078&parentid=TNA%2FRG4%2FBAP%2F1769526

That did the trick and my thanks to Boo for the Ancestry links.

After more than 20 years of visits in the National Archives (Joseph appears in Description Books + Woolwich Records) plus days at Chester Archives this is the 1st real progress with the 1770s Brickwall.
Joseph's military records say birth Budworth, Cheshire and I guess Lostock will be Lostock Gralam, Cheshire which, strangely, my wife and I have cycled through on several days out.

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For anyone following this see:
All Lostick more likely
ALLOSTOCK, a township in that part of the parish of GREAT BUDWORTH which is in the hundred of NORTHWICH, county palatine of CHESTER
not Lostock Gralam!
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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #30 on: Monday 28 April 25 14:31 BST (UK) »
Robert's baptism in Brighton in 1801 is also free to view :)
Squeezed in right at the bottom of the left hand page.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=TNA%2FRG4%2F3423%2F0%2F0078&parentid=TNA%2FRG4%2FBAP%2F1127420

I had this from the days when you visited local history centres! Sergeant Joseph Walton, probably, had at least 8 children that I know of, mostly found by searching for births in towns with army barracks. Daughter Margaret Walton - Woolwich birth with baptism entry. Daughter Hannah Walton - Colchester with baptism entry etc. The family were non conformist and the baptisms were in Scots Presbyterian, Independent Chapels etc.
Now... does anyone have a record for mystery man, Joseph's probable son, Levi Walton??


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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #31 on: Monday 28 April 25 19:38 BST (UK) »
Mystery man Levi Walton, probable son of Joseph Walton?

What details do you have for Levi Walton?

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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 29 April 25 08:34 BST (UK) »
Mystery man Levi Walton, probable son of Joseph Walton?

What details do you have for Levi Walton?

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1841 Census, Barrack Square, Newcastle upon Tyne - Widow Elizabeth Walton (25y - born 1812?) living with widow Mary Clazey/Glary Walton + others. Elizabeth Walton born Newcastle died 1881 in Leeds, daughters' residence and the death certificate has widow of Levi Walton a soldier. So, Levi could have died before 1841 and at some stage lived at the Newcastle Barracks. Most likely a son of Joseph Walton.

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Elizabeth Walton's daughter Mary Ann Walton b. 1828, Leeds (Possibly Leeds Barracks?) - married Walter Sicklemore in 1851 at Tuthill Stairs Chapel, Newcastle but father's name missing from certificate.

Thanks for taking a look at this. David

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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 29 April 25 20:07 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Walton's daughter Mary Ann Walton b. 1828, Leeds (Possibly Leeds Barracks?) - married Walter Sicklemore in 1851 at Tuthill Stairs Chapel, Newcastle but father's name missing from certificate.

Wow, a Sicklemore! Don't often get one of those on here.
Do you have them in 1861?
In 1871 they have a Joseph John Walton, 20, with them
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZLG-MHG

So the only tangible sign of Levi Walton is him being on named on Elizabeth's death certificate as her husband?

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« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 30 April 25 08:13 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Walton's daughter Mary Ann Walton b. 1828, Leeds (Possibly Leeds Barracks?) - married Walter Sicklemore in 1851 at Tuthill Stairs Chapel, Newcastle but father's name missing from certificate.

Wow, a Sicklemore! Don't often get one of those on here.
Do you have them in 1861?
In 1871 they have a Joseph John Walton, 20, with them
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZLG-MHG

So the only tangible sign of Levi Walton is him being on named on Elizabeth's death certificate as her husband?

Levi only appears on the death certificate. A mystery man who could be a son/nephew... I have trawled military records and births/deaths/marriages but found nothing. It could be that Levi Walton was from an unrelated Walton line? In the absence of source documents anything is possible.

There are paper trails for Walter Sicklemore, Mary Ann Walton and Joseph John Walton. I even have a photograph of the Sicklemore residence in Leeds (etched glass panel over the front door - Sicklemore).

Joseph John Walton was Mary Ann Walton Sicklemore's nephew, presuming Levi was Sergeant Joseph's son i.e. Sergeant Joseph Walton > Thomas Walton > Joseph John Walton. Walter Sicklemore was a hardware travelling salesman and even visited my branch of the family in Blackhill, Co. Durham (Walter+Mary Ann staying in a pub for the 1861 Census - Robert Walton+Mary+Family within walking distance). Robert (born Brighton Barracks) was another of Sergeant Joseph's sons.
The Sicklemores came from London, my note:
Parents' marriage Robert Sicklemore + Maria Roles on 21 Jun 1821 at Hanover Square Westminster in London, England. Death Robert Sicklemore on 6 Jan 1855 in Bow, Middlesex, England. Marriage Q4 1885 Leeds 9b 813, RB/88/17, Walter Sicklemore + Ann Pearce.
These were Walter's parents and following the death of Mary Ann Walton Sicklemore he married Annie Pearce of Thame, Oxfordshire. Walter appears in the Census 1841 thr' to 1891 and dies 13 Mar 1898 in Leeds.
Walter Sicklemore
1841 - Gateshead
1851 - Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne
1861 - visiting Blackhill, Consett, Co. Durham
1871 - Mickelgate, York (a centre for cabinet making i.e. Joseph John Walton was a planemaker and William was selling related hardware)
1881 - Potternewton, Leeds
1891 - Leeds

All the above were well travelled!

David

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Re: Brickwall
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 30 April 25 09:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thanks for the info on Walter. His father Robert was from Maidstone, so likely his family were from Sussex before that. Most of them are in Brighton - as Sickelmore - which is where your Robert Walton was born!

Something or nothing? :-\ Not investigated further yet.
Baptism of Mary Ann Blanchard at St Peter Leeds, 1st January 1829
Parents Levi + Elizabeth
Father a Private 9th Lancers.
Free transcript and image of BT here
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBPRS%2FYORKSHIRE%2FBAP%2F203361652&tab=this

Then a baptism at Newcastle St Andrew, 14 Nov 1830
Margaret
Parents Levi + Elizabeth Blanchard
Father in 9th Lancers
Transcript of BT here
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/605dd7fef493fdb5c2b492e7

Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67F3-K54