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Re: John Tompkins Forton Prison 1881?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 05 November 19 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Well this is the marriage record

Marriages Sep 1880   
SHEA    Ann        Pancras    1b   298    
TOMPKINS    John        Pancras    1b   298

If you get the marriage certificate it will tell you who the fathers are.  Someone may be able to find it on Ancestry as I think they have images for marriages in London.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: John Tompkins Forton Prison 1881?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 05 November 19 21:39 GMT (UK) »
I found the family in 1891 and I can't quite believe how the enumerator managed to do this!  :o

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: John Tompkins Forton Prison 1881?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 05 November 19 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Even the transcription has her down as Arthur, but of course the transcribers have to write what they see.

Place of birth for 'Arthur' is London, St. Pancras as is everyone else in the family.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: John Tompkins Forton Prison 1881?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 05 November 19 21:52 GMT (UK) »
This may be Ann's birth, but you really need to get her marriage certificate to find out her father's name.

SHEA, ANN       ROACH 
GRO Reference: 1855  S Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 332
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: John Tompkins Forton Prison 1881?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 November 19 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for this info, I will order the marriage certificate :) just waiting on the Forton Prison info now...I'm wondering if he actually dies there???...maybe someone who is more experienced than me could look into it for me please..really stuck on this one lol!!

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Re: John Tompkins Forton Prison 1881?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 November 19 07:49 GMT (UK) »
He is still around in the 1911 census, still at the same address as 1901 which is Litcham Street, St. Pancras

There is this death which could be him although age slightly out.

Deaths Jun 1915   
Tompkins    John    66    Pancras    1b   164

This gives a birth year of 1849.  John's birth year is 1852 however on one census it is given as 1855.  The person registering the death may not have known his exact birth year.  You can get a pdf from the GRO at a cost of £7.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: John Tompkins Forton Prison 1881?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 06 November 19 07:53 GMT (UK) »
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Re: John Tompkins Forton Prison 1881?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 06 November 19 07:59 GMT (UK) »
Where do you have John on census prior to his marriage

I think I have him in 1871 (reply 20)
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Re: John Tompkins Forton Prison 1881?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 06 November 19 08:06 GMT (UK) »
Where did you get the idea that John had been in Forton Prison? 
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire