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Offline Calvin Wyatt

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Re: Agnes Craig
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 31 October 19 21:26 GMT (UK) »
the 1841 census for my family is hard to read so Its difficult to ascertain whether she is married or not I'd presume so but with my difficulty finding a marriage record, I'm confused.

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Re: Agnes Craig
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 31 October 19 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Calvin, you need to remember when researching pre the start of official registration in Scotland from 1855, that only about a third of BMD events were recorded in the Old Parish Registers (for the established Church of Scotland, ie presbyterian).

Agnes' birth and parents' marriage may simply not be there to be found unfortunately  :-\

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Re: Agnes Craig
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 31 October 19 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Oh, of course. Sorry. I Knew there wasn't a poor standard of record keeping pre 1855, this is the first time I've experienced it when researching my family.

Regardless, thank you all for your help today

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Re: Agnes Craig
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 31 October 19 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Jane,  Janet, Jean  Jeanie were the same name effectively in Scotland. 
They are all feminine forms of John, so they are equivalent.

Sometimes, however, you find a family that has both a Jane/Jean/Jeanie/Jeannie and a Janet/Jessie, so not every family regarded Janet as a variant of Jean/Jane. I have only come across a few Jean/Jane/Janets - nothing like as many as I have found Janet/Jessies or Jean/Janes.
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Re: Agnes Craig
« Reply #13 on: Friday 01 November 19 01:17 GMT (UK) »
"She married Alexander Marshall in 1866 in Bridgeton and her parents are listed as James Craig and Janet Crawford. "

Is Janet Crawford recorded as Janet Marshall M.S. Crawford or just Janet Crawford?

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Re: Agnes Craig
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 02 November 19 22:20 GMT (UK) »
"She married Alexander Marshall in 1866 in Bridgeton and her parents are listed as James Craig and Janet Crawford. "

Is Janet Crawford recorded as Janet Marshall M.S. Crawford or just Janet Crawford?

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On the marriage record of Janet's daughter Agnes Craig to Alexander Marshall, Janet is listed as "Janet Craig M.S. Crawford" So that would indicate she was married.

Janet was around 17 when her daughter Agnes was born. I'm not sure if she would've be been married then
Or not.

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Re: Agnes Craig
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 03 November 19 00:39 GMT (UK) »
Census 1871   @ 9 Holmes Street Hamilton Lanarkshire
MARSHALL Alexander           28y     boiler maker                b. Hamilton Lanarkshire
MARSHALL Agnes                26y                                       b.  Glasgow Lanarkshire
MARSHALL Agnes                  4y                                        b. Hamilton Lanarkshire
MARSHALL Mary                   2y                                         b. Hamilton Lanarkshire
MARSHALL Flora                    6m

Census 1881   @ 251 Main Street Bridgeton Lanarkshire
MARSHALL  Alexander           38y      boiler inspector          b. Omoa Lanarkshire
MARSHALL  Agnes H             36y                                       b. Glasgow
MARSHALL  Agnes                14y                                       b. Hamilton
MARSHALL  Flora H               10y                                      b. Hamilton
MARSHALL  Alexander             9y                                      b. Motherwell Lanarkshire
MARSHALL  James                  7y                                      b. Motherwell Lanarkshire
MARSHALL  Jane                    4y                                       b. Glasgow
MARSHALL Stewart M             1y                                       b. Glasgow

Census 1891  @ 5 Clydeview Terr
MARSHALL  Alexander           48y    boiler inspector            b. Omoa Lanarkshire
MARSHALL  Agnes                 46y                                      b. Glasgow
MARSHALL  Flora                   21y                                      b. Hamilton Lanarkshire
MARSHALL  Alexander            19y     clerk                          b. Hamilton Lanarkshire
MARSHALL  James                  17y   butchers ass.               b. Hamilton Lanarkshire
MARSHALL  Jeannie               14y    milliners app.              b. Govan Lanarkshire
MARSHALL Stuart M               11y                                     b. Govan Lanarkshire               

Census 1901  @ 28 Rupert Street Glasgow Park Lanarkshire
MARSHALL   Alexander           58y    boiler inspector            b. Omoa Lanarkshire
MARSHALL   Agnes  H             56y                                     b. Glasgow Lanarkshire     
MARSHALL    James                27y      butchers ass.            b. Motherwell Lanarkshire
MARSHALL    Murray S            21y     clerk wine merchant   b. Glasgow Lanarkshire
HENDERSON Wilhelmina           4y      servant                     b. Glasgow Lanarkshire

From births Scotlandspeople.......... MARSHALL Flora Hastie

Mother Agnes is named Agnes H...might suggest that HASTIE is a family name in her ancestry.

You have a CRAIG - MARSHALL marriage certificate, 1866, which would record a lot of information.

Can you please list all the information on this document.......everything........ages, names, dates, occupations, addresses...also if parents are noted as (dec)......does everyone sign ie literate.......

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Re: Agnes Craig
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 03 November 19 09:31 GMT (UK) »
On the marriage record of Janet's daughter Agnes Craig to Alexander Marshall, Janet is listed as "Janet Craig M.S. Crawford" So that would indicate she was married.
Yes. Unless Agnes didn't know that her parents weren't married, or she did know and was fibbing.
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Re: Agnes Craig
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 03 November 19 21:22 GMT (UK) »
So the infromation from Agnes' Marriage cetificate is as follows:

Agnes Craig Married Alexander Marshall on the 23 of March at London Road in Glasgow, they were married after banns according to the forms of the church of Scotland. Agnes was a bleacher and Alexander was a Shoemaker. Alexander was 21 and Agnes 20. Tthey were noted as both living at 23 Kirk Street. Alexanders parents were John Marshall, a cotton weaver who was deceased at the time of the marriage and Margaret Marshall M.S. Hamilton. Agnes' Parents were James Craig and Janet M.S. Crawford. Donald McNair and Robert Wallae were witnesses.

ive also found a record of Agnes and Alexanders illegitemate child Agnes Marshall born 1863 in Springburn. Her parents are listed as being a Shoemaker and a Bleachfield worker.

Also found a record of a son, John who was born 1867 at 64 Drygate in the High Church area of Glasgow

I've found a census record for 1871 in the Calton area which seems to add up mostly though I'm a bit confused by one bit so I'm not too sure.

on this census theres an:

Alexander Marshall, 26 Shoemaker
His wife, 25 ( can't read the name, possibly Jane but that wouldnt fit, doesnt look similar to Agnes when compared to the daughter agnes' name)
Agnes Marshall, 7 daughter
John Marshall, 3 Son
Ann? Mashall, 1 Daughter
John Marshall, 22 Brother also a Shoemaker

The shoemaker adds up, the daughter and son names and ages match records but the name of the wife seems wrong.

EDIT: I've jusr ound a record for a Ann Marshall born to Agnes and Alexander in 1870 so qould be 1 by 1871. this seems to be the 1 year old on this record but the name just doesnt look like Agnes for the wife at all