Author Topic: Edward (aka Edmund) Whittaker, Lanesboro, Longford, Ireland grave 1873  (Read 1807 times)

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Re: Edward (aka Edmund) Whittaker, Lanesboro, Longford, Ireland grave 1873
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 26 October 19 12:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Hallmark.
The Archivist at the Longford County Library has assisted me re possible grave location.
Edmund was a Tailor by trade but also a  British soldier from 1813-1839. He was a Chelsea Pensioner so that's how I found him in Ireland.
Margaret was a Tailoress.
Whittaker (originally from Newchurch, Rossendale then Manchester) and Seel (Manchester).

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Re: Edward (aka Edmund) Whittaker, Lanesboro, Longford, Ireland grave 1873
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 26 October 19 12:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Aghadowey.
Thank you for your input.
I have traced the son James to his death just not a grave as yet.
No surviving burial records from Longford for the 1870s according to the Archivist that has been helping me.
I have searched newspaper archives, looked for wills etc but nothing.
Thanks for the tip regarding Edmunds name too.
I have been looking for Margaret too but apparently the churchyard graves haven't been transcribed.
Whittaker (originally from Newchurch, Rossendale then Manchester) and Seel (Manchester).

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Re: Edward (aka Edmund) Whittaker, Lanesboro, Longford, Ireland grave 1873
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 26 October 19 13:05 BST (UK) »
I have seen the headstone for Edmund and Margaret's son, the first James in Newchurch Lancashire. It is a proper monument which makes me think that Edmund and Margaret would have had some sort of monument too. Their son John Munn erected a great headstone to his wife and brother (My lineage) and he was alive when his father died so I imagine he would have done similar for them.
I can't find where I would even contact St John's for information when I Google it.
Often cemeteries have Friends of that will take a look in the graveyard. I'm in Australia and won't be back in the UK for a few years so it's a bit difficult to progress at present.
Whittaker (originally from Newchurch, Rossendale then Manchester) and Seel (Manchester).

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Re: Edward (aka Edmund) Whittaker, Lanesboro, Longford, Ireland grave 1873
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 26 October 19 15:29 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't assume that there has to be a headstone for Edward & wife. Two things need to happen for one to appear- 1) money and 2) someone to erect it. Quite often people mean to get one up but never get around to it especially if relatives live far away. Wife may have been too ill or upset to think about it after Edward died then after she died family never got around to it.

So have you looked for Death of wife??
What about the possible Widow one registered Strokestown Reg District??
You have been advised that if he were an Anglican he would likely have been buried in St John's Churchyard, Lanesboro...... by whom??  He might have been buried between Lanesboro and Strokestown for example??
Plus you don't say what is under Occupation.  Was he a small farmer (as per Widow Mgt's cert)??

The registration district is Roscommon, sub-district is Strokestown-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06458/4856690.pdf

If you check this site you'll see that Roscommon district marches Longford district-
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php
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Re: Edward (aka Edmund) Whittaker, Lanesboro, Longford, Ireland grave 1873
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 27 October 19 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi aghadowey,
Thanks for the information on Margaret Whittaker. It could be her as it is in the same area and I'm thinking Whittaker was not such a common name around those parts. It has thrown me that the son James states on his conversion to Catholicism in New Ross, Wexford, 13 Oct. 1876 that his father was Edmund Whittaker and his mother was Margaret McGuiness. The only other thing I have to go on is that Margaret's mother was potentially named Elizabeth and her father John as the family seemed to stick to the naming pattern for Rossendale Lancashire and I cannot find an Elizabeth or a John in Edmund's direct lineage yet those are names of their children.
Whittaker (originally from Newchurch, Rossendale then Manchester) and Seel (Manchester).

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Re: Edward (aka Edmund) Whittaker, Lanesboro, Longford, Ireland grave 1873
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 27 October 19 11:46 GMT (UK) »


She is Registered in Strokestown Superintendents District and the Death was Registered in Rooskey sub-district  which puts her over at Termonbarry area.

IF she is his Widow I'd imagine you'd be looking at Cemetery in that area.

Rooskey C of I is of no use...... 

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/roscommon/photos/tombstones/rooskey/target0.html

BUT you could ask chap in Longford if any g/stones were moved "elsewhere".....or what Cemetery would be nearest to Termonbarry for her.




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