Edward (aka Edmund) Whittaker, Lanesboro, Longford, Ireland grave 1873

[tillyann]

Hi Everyone,
I have been researching an ancestor who was an Englishman from Lancashire that relocated to Ireland. He was a Chelsea Pensioner and I found his pension record and his subsequent death certificate.
He was called Edmund Whitaker in Lancashire but this changed to Edward Whittaker when he was in Ireland. His wife was Irish- Margaret Donough or Donohoe or Mc Guiness born abt 1805. I have found her listed by all three surnames. I have no idea of what happened to her post the 1851 England Census nor do I know why Edmund/Edward and his youngest child James went to Ireland at some point between 1851 and 1873.
Edmund dies of natural causes in November 1873 in Lanesboro Longford, Ireland. I don't believe he was a Catholic and I have been advised that if he were an Anglican he would likely have been buried in St John's Churchyard, Lanesboro. There are no records apparently for this graveyard so I would love to know if anyone has any ideas or experiences in progressing a search for a burial place when the information is so scant. TIA for any assistance.

[Milliepede]

I have no idea of what happened to her post the 1851 England Census

Where were they living in 1851?

There is a Margaret Whittaker death in 1853 age 48 Aqueduct Street and buried 25 Mar 1853 St Johns Church Preston Lancs

[shume]

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2501960/memorial-search?page=1#sr-116233409

These are the entries for the Lanesborough cemetery Longford but unfortunately they are only 99% shown.

add: ditto Clonbunny Cemetery only 96% shown
 

[tillyann]

Hi Milliepede,
I'm not so interested in finding more about their life in England. It is their Irish life chapter that I'm seeking. I can't think of any other reason for Edmund to go to Ireland other than Margaret wanting to go. The Whittakers were prolific and many did go to Manchester. Most of our ancestors are in Dukinfield Cemetery so it is unlikely but thankyou. I will note it.

[aghadowey]

Longford is the registration district for Lanesboro. Only 4 Whittaker entries (2 births, 2 deaths).

There should be important details on Edward's death registration- occupation? marital status? details of informant?

[tillyann]

Unfortunately the death certificate wasn't very helpful other than verifying Edward/Edmund died in Lanesboro. He died of natural causes, was married and all information came from the coroner. No family information at all. Having looked at Find A Grave the Lanesboro Cemetery has noted graves of McGuinness. When I look into this the name Donohoe crops up. Both these surnames appear connected to his Irish wife Margaret so perhaps they did leave Lancashire to return to Margaret's home town as conditions may have improved somewhat after the potato famine.

[hallmark]

Unfortunately the death certificate wasn't very helpful other than verifying Edward/Edmund died in Lanesboro. He died of natural causes, was married and all information came from the coroner. No family information at all. Having looked at Find A Grave the Lanesboro Cemetery has noted graves of McGuinness. When I look into this the name Donohoe crops up. Both these surnames appear connected to his Irish wife Margaret so perhaps they did leave Lancashire to return to Margaret's home town as conditions may have improved somewhat after the potato famine.

....and that he wasn't a Widower!!

So have you looked for Death of wife??


What about the possible Widow one registered Strokestown Reg District??


You have been advised that if he were an Anglican he would likely have been buried in St John's Churchyard, Lanesboro...... by whom??  He might have been buried between Lanesboro and Strokestown for example??

Plus you don't say what is under Occupation.  Was he a small farmer (as per Widow Mgt's cert)??

[aghadowey]

Unfortunately the death certificate wasn't very helpful other than verifying Edward/Edmund died in Lanesboro. He died of natural causes, was married and all information came from the coroner. No family information at all. Having looked at Find A Grave the Lanesboro Cemetery has noted graves of McGuinness. When I look into this the name Donohoe crops up. Both these surnames appear connected to his Irish wife Margaret so perhaps they did leave Lancashire to return to Margaret's home town as conditions may have improved somewhat after the potato famine.

In addition to his marital status another important bit of information was the fact that the Coroner was the informant- which means it was more than likely an inquest took place (is date of inquest also noted in that box on certificate?

It might be that Edward/Edmund and wife Margaret were buried in the churchyard (not cemetery) at Lanesboro but there was no headstone. If there are burial records they would be with the Parish Church (St. John's)- have you verified when the burial records actually start? It's possible Margaret would be listed even if it's too early for his death in 1873.

Should also mention that in Ireland Edward and Edmund can be interchangeable.

[hallmark]

Only 1 possible 1901 Census

Whittaker   James   52   Male   Head of Family   Catholic   Lancashire, England

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/New_Kilmainham/Tram_Cottages/1290567/


...maybe you know more about son??  Age etc...