Griffiths Family in Glamorgan, Wales.

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John Griffiths, born Swansea 1818-1821, a stonemason at Swansea smelters, married Sarah Barber Jones in 1844 in St Marys, Swansea and migrated to Burra, South Australia in 1855 with 4 children.
John was the eldest of 6 brothers William, Henry, Phillip, Francis and David and two sisters Gwendoline and Ruth. All the brothers allegedly served in the Crimean War and only David returned but seriously ill with dysentery. He followed his brother John to Burra but returned to die in Wales.
I cannot find any record of the brothers or sisters or parents John and either Sarah or Mary back in Wales. Any suggestions?

[rosie99]

Presumably this is the marriage registration, no mention of a middle name for Sarah though

Marriages Dec qtr 1844 
GRIFFITHS    John       
JONES    Sarah       
Swansea    26   651   

Where do you have this couple on the 1851 census

[rosie99]

The marriage has
John Griffiths occ Mason abode New Street, father John Griffiths occ Mason.
Sarah Jones of Tontine Street, father Thomas Jones occ Butcher

[Girl Guide]

I think this may be the family in 1851

Ebenezer Street, Swansea, Glamorganshire

John and Sarah with three children Charles, Adelaide and Sarah and nephew Thomas Jones.

Registration district   Swansea
Archive reference   HO107
Piece number   2466
Folio   419
Page   15

Charles' birth record?

GRIFFITHS, CHARLES  BARBER     JONES 
GRO Reference: 1845  D Quarter in SWANSEA UNION  Volume 26  Page 463

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Yes, you are all correct with your findings! Thank you!
It is the rest of the family I am interested in...the ones left behind.
Has anyone access to the Crimean War records. From my understanding there were very few records of casualties. Henry, William, Phillip, Francis and David all went but only David returned. They were all born after my Pioneer John and David was almost too young to go. It seems the British went around the smelters and they all signed up. I also cannot find their parents or the family in the 1841 Census
 or 1851 Census except for Pioneer John and Sarah Barber in Ebenezer St. Where was the rest of the family? A short side track:- in a book a family member wrote it said they were friends with Thomas Wilks and this man lived in Higher and lower Llansamlet before they migrated to Burra.
I believe the rest of the family lived in Glamorgan...possibly Swansea too.

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Re: Griffiths Family in Glamorgan, Wales.
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Yes, you are all correct with your findings! Thank you!
It is the rest of the family I am interested in...the ones left behind.
Has anyone access to the Crimean War records. From my understanding there were very few records of casualties. Henry, William, Phillip, Francis and David all went but only David returned. They were all born after my Pioneer John and David was almost too young to go. It seems the British went around the smelters and they all signed up. I also cannot find their parents or the family in the 1841 Census
 or 1851 Census except for Pioneer John and Sarah Barber in Ebenezer St. Where was the rest of the family? A short side track:- in a book a family member wrote it said they were friends with Thomas Wilks and this man lived in Higher and lower Llansamlet before they migrated to Burra.
I believe the rest of the family lived in Glamorgan...possibly Swansea too.

[osprey]

I looked back at your other post

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=764879.msg6176303#msg6176303

and I now have doubts over the family from the 1851 & 1841 census entries. I've found baptisms for William & Sarah in St Mary's Swansea & the father is a mason but his first name is Thomas.
William born 6 Aug 1828, bp 31 Aug 1828 son of Thomas, mason, & Sarah Griffiths
Sarah born 6 Dec 1830, bp 9 Jan 1831 dau of Thomas, mason, & Sarah Griffiths

[burrahills]

Thanks Osprey...no, the father is definitely John! It's strange I can't find them either. The Pioneer John and Sarah who migrated are the ones in 1851 Census in Ebenezer St, but all his siblings and parents must be somewhere you would think?

[osprey]

you would think so, but born in county isn't helping with a common surname.