George PICKERING/Margaret CARTY

[cattao]

I have a NSW birth transcription for Matthew Lonsdale Pickering, 1887 born in Lithgow, NSW parents George Pickering stated to be born Co. Durham and married to Margaret Carty in Newcastle, definitely not NSW Newcastle, but could it be Newcastle on Tyne, thence Northumberland?? Date not given of marriage. At least 3 other children before 1887 in NSW. Margaret birthplace also Co Durham Her name down elsewhere as Mc/Mac Carty. Any pointers on this couple please. Margaret sometimes listed as Mary.

[Dundee]

If this is George's in memoriam then someone thought his name was 'John George' and the children's deaths show their mother as 'Mary'.  Did George remarry?

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/239761280

How old were George and Margaret when Matthew was born?

Debra 

[cattao]

George 42, Margaret 38. Indexes sometimes listed wife as Mary, do not know a thing about George apart from his name on the M/C of Matthew and Ethel Oldham (first marr) mother listedas Mary Carty.

[cattao]

Checked the trove link and it looks like we have found our George, names all fit in, many thanks I will hunt further for a death/funeral  notice now looking for John George!!!

[wivenhoe]

BDM NSW birth
23421/1887 PICKERING  Matthew L 
parents George / Margaret                                   @ Lithgow

marriage
5752/1915 PICKERING   Matthew L  marr. OLDMAN    Ethel     @ Petersham

Can you please list all the information on these two certificates.  Are you looking at a (typed) transcription....or an image of a handwritten document.

What other certificates do you have for BDM events in the lives of the people you are researching.

Do you have death certificates for Matthew's parents?

[Dundee]

I really think that you should get both George's death cert and Violet's marriage cert to see who she names as her mother.  I think that George had several relationships.

Debra 

[majm]

May I please mention the County in which  Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia, is the principal city is .... NORTHUMBERLAND ... 

I have a NSW birth transcription for Matthew Lonsdale Pickering, 1887 born in Lithgow, NSW parents George Pickering stated to be born Co. Durham and married to Margaret Carty in Newcastle, definitely not NSW Newcastle, but could it be Newcastle on Tyne, thence Northumberland?? Date not given of marriage. At least 3 other children before 1887 in NSW. Margaret birthplace also Co Durham Her name down elsewhere as Mc/Mac Carty. Any pointers on this couple please. Margaret sometimes listed as Mary.

JM

[Jamjar]

His death:

23141/1919  PICKERING John G father JOHN @ HELENSBURGH

Her death:

11382/1931  PICKERING Mary 85 YRS HELENSBURGH

I can’t see a suitable UK marriage.

This is a birth closeish to his birth year:

PICKERING, JOHN  GEORGE mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 103

PICKERING, MARGARET  ELLEN mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in DURHAM  Volume 10A  Page 360

PICKERING, JOSEPH mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1861  J Quarter in DURHAM  Volume 10A  Page 297

PICKERING, ALICE mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1859  S Quarter in DURHAM  Volume 10A  Page 273

PICKERING, SARAH  ANN mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1855  D Quarter in DURHAM  Volume 10A  Page 226
 
PICKERING, HANNAH mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1854  J Quarter in DURHAM  Volume 10A  Page 242

PICKERING, MARY  JANE mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1852  S Quarter in DURHAM  Volume 10A  Page 187

PICKERING, JOSEPH mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 102

PICKERING, ELIZABETH mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1846  J Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 98

PICKERING, MARY  JANE mmn GIBSON 
GRO Reference: 1844  J Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 85

Possible parents of above:

Mar 1843 Auckland 24 13

PICKERING Richard   
GIBSON Isabella   

1851 and 1861 census:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJY-M89

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M782-77F

This is all conjecture of course, given that the death cert has father’s name as John and the birth year is at odds with age at death.

Jamjar

[majm]

 

New South Wales Electoral Roll 1878 NORTHUMBERLAND
George PICKERING, household, New Lambton.

NSW ER 1878 NEWCASTLE
James McCARTY, household, Lower Church Street.

ADD
Grevilles PO Directory 1875 NEWCASTLE
Martin CARTY, letter carrier, Post Office

NSW ER 1878, NEWCASTLE
Martin CARTY, household, Darby Street  (no others with that surname on that roll)

NSW ER 1878 NORTHUMBERLAND
James CUMMINGS, household, New Lambton.


JM