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Stevens/goldswaine
« on: Thursday 17 October 19 19:10 BST (UK) »
Hi

As a long shot to find more about John Stevens and Emily goldswain, I purchased the birth certificate of their first child. 

I am hoping to find this address in 1881 to see if there is any link between the occupants and the couple.

I have looked through all the records trying to find something similar to what is Written on the birth certificate but no luck.

A previous board my help with my history on this couple https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=602839.0

Can anyone help transcribe the address or help to find any possible link? Maybe electrol records from 1883?

Thanks



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Re: Stevens/goldswaine
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 October 19 21:04 BST (UK) »
I don't know if it is me but I am having difficulty finding registered births in the name of Stevens, I picked out Grace Margaret Stevens in particular, no joy, perhaps it is me !!!

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Stevens/goldswaine
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 October 19 21:46 BST (UK) »
So far I can only find registrations for
Emily  mothers maiden name Goldswain
Ada  and Elsie, twins
Harry
Elsie
All registered Camberwell

No marriage either so far

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Stevens/goldswaine
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 October 19 22:12 BST (UK) »
Quote from: nicholpope on Thursday 17 October 19 19:10 BST (UK)
Can anyone help transcribe the address

1 Swiss Cottages, Hindmans Road

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Re: Stevens/goldswaine
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 October 19 22:16 BST (UK) »
This is a confusing family
Lily in 1901 is she Lydia 1891
Agnes in 1901 is she/he Augustus 1911
Edith born 1883 is she Jane in 1891

Ethel May 1898 does she become Grace Margaret?

1901 census Ada is listed age 2 where is her twin Elsie? both are there 1911

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Re: Stevens/goldswaine
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 October 19 22:20 BST (UK) »
They certainly are confusing, no wonder I can't  find them all listed with mother's  maiden name, did wonder if either had been married before as they were slightly older parents, not by much though, bear in mind not everyone married in those days as much as we would have liked them to, if no marriage I wonder why?

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Stevens/goldswaine
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 October 19 22:23 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Bookbox on Thursday 17 October 19 22:12 BST (UK)
Quote from: nicholpope on Thursday 17 October 19 19:10 BST (UK)
Can anyone help transcribe the address

1 Swiss Cottages, Hindmans Road

I can't find Swiss Cottages. Maybe it should have been 1 Smiths Cottages ?

1881 -- RG11/678 folio 32 page 58 (surnames ANDREWS, JOLLEY, MARKS)

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Re: Stevens/goldswaine
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 October 19 22:32 BST (UK) »
Agree with address, google maps have Hindmans Road in East Dulwich

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Re: Stevens/goldswaine
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 October 19 08:57 BST (UK) »
Is this your family?

Cernsus 1911  at    144 *andcroft Rd   Camberwell, London
STEVENS    John       60y    labourer                 b. Cockney, Liverpool
STEVENS    Emily      57y                                 b. Great Marlow Buckinghamshire
STEVENS    John       23y    factory hand 
STEVENS    James     21y    shop assistant
STEVENS    Emily      18y    laundry hand
STEVENS    Augustus 16y
STEVENS    Grace      13y
STEVENS    Ada         11y
STEVENS    Elsie        11y
STEVENS    Harry        9y
STEVENS    Frances     7y
STEVENS    Charles     5y     
THOMPSON Julia         21y    visitor   

 birthplace for all children in East Dulwich, London, also for Julia THOMPSON, and I suspect that she has just been casually included.

Census 1901  at 54 Ulverscroft Rd Camberwell
STEVENS         John               49y                                    b. Liverpool
STEVENS         Emily              41y                                    b. Great Marlow  Buckinghamshire
STEVENS         Lily                 17y                                    b. East Dulwich, London
STEVENS         John                13y                                   b. East Dulwich, London
STEVENS         James              12y                                   b. East Dulwich, London
STEVENS         Emily                8y                                    b. East Dulwich, London
STEVENS         Agnes                6y                                   b. East Dulwich, London 
STEVENS        Grace Margaret   4y                                    b. East Dulwich, London
STEVENS        Ider                   2y                                    b. East Dulwich, London

Census 1891   at 54 Ulverscroft Rd Camberwell
STEVENS         John                34y                                b. Whitby Lam\ncashire
STEVENS         Emily               37y                                b. Great Marlow    Bucks
STEVENS         Jane                  8y                                b. Dulwich, London
STEVENS         Lydia                 6y                                 b. Dulwich, London
STEVENS         John                  3y                                 b. Dulwich, London
STEVENS         James                1y                                 b. Dulwich, London

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