Newcastle Emlyn workhouse

[jillyg]

Quite a number of years ago I had great help on this foram searching for my great grandfather William Llewellyn Jones, who has proved quite elusive. I have now found him on the 1911 census I the workhouse In Newcastle Emlyn,he is listed as inmate 45 years old and unmarried.we know he had medical connections,he is listed as a dispenser (medical). I am wondering if this information could lead me to his death date, if any records are still available for the workhouse. My grandmother lists him as deceased on her marriage certificate in 1912.
All help appreciated 😊

[maddys52]

The only William JONES death at Newcastle in Emlyn between 1911 and 1912 is March qtr 1912 (11B / 25), however the age is 57, so quite a bit older than the 45 in the 1911 census. 

[jillyg]

He seems to be a mystery man. Thanks for your reply 😊

[osprey]

I've looked at your other post about this family and not sure what details you have about the people concerned.

1881 census St David's Villa, Llangrannog RG11/5433 folio 145 pg 19
Josiah Jones head widower 73 grocer
Margaret dau 27 housekeeper
Evan O son 22 grocer's assistant
David J son 19 grocer's assistant
William Ll son 15 scholar
Anne Jones 40 general servant
all born Llangrannog

1871 Pontgareg Shop, Llangrannog RG10/5546 folio 73 pg 7
Josiah Jones head mar 63 grocer & draper
Rachel wife 45 b. Penboyr
Margaret dau 17
Evan O son 12
David  J son 9
William Ll son 5
Anne Jones 33 domestic servant b. Troedyraur
others born Llangrannog

From the 1892 newspaper article which gives Elizabeth's mother as Mary Tudor Davies

1901 Priory St, Cardigan RG13/5135 folio 39 pg 19
Mary T Davies head widow 52 charwoman
H(enry) Llewellyn Jones grandson 13
Benjamin J grandson 8
Mary G grand dau 7
all born Cardigan

1891 Pwllhai, Cardigan RG12/4543 folio 75 pg 12
Mary Tudor Davis head widow 40 midwife
Eliz^th A Jones dau mar 23
Herbert Ll Jones grandson 3
Wm J Jones grandson 1
all born Cardigan
The only likely birth reg for Herbert is as Herbert Llewellyn Thomas march qtr 1888 Cardigan vol 11b pg 9 mmn -

1881 13 Pwllhai, Cardigan RG11/5427 folio 97 pg 27
Mary T Davies head unm 35 domestic servant
Elizabeth A dau 13
both born Cardigan

I wouldn't put too much faith in Myfanwy's father being noted as deceased on the marriage cert, it could be a cover for not being in contact.

[osprey]

1871 census 13 Pwllhai RG10/5541 folio 93 pg 9
Mary Davies head unm 28 washing woman
Elizabeth Ann Thomas dau 4
Catherine Davies sister 17? milliner
all born Cardigan
possible birth reg Elizabeth Anne Davies march qtr 1867 Cardigan vol 11b pg 9 mmn -

1861 Pwllhay RG9/4175 folio 86 pg 11
John Tutor Davies head mar 44 joiner b. Cards, Llandygwydd ?
Eliza wife 42 b. Cilrhedyn
Mary dau 17 domestic servant
John son 12
Catherine dau 7
children all born Cardigan

Marriage 20 Oct 1866 in St Mary Cardigan
John Tudor Davies widower, joiner, Pwllhai Street, father Thomas Davies, carpenter
Sarah James, widow, Greenfield Row, father Robert Dewbery, farmer
witnesses John James & Mary Wood Harper, all signed.

Baptism 2 March 1814 in Llandygwydd for John Tudor son of Thomas, carpenter, & Mary Davies of Penycnwch ? Penygraig
Possible marriage in the same parish 28 May 1807 for Thomas Davies & Mary Davies.

[osprey]

John Josiah, older brother of William Ll Jones, passing medical exams

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4354216/4354222/33/

[osprey]

wonder if this is the same man?

Gloucester Journal 7 July 1917
Littledean Petty Sessions
William Llewellyn Jones of Belle Vue Road, Cinderford, dispenser, was summoned for drunkenness on 28th June.

 

[maddys52]

I wouldn't put too much faith in Myfanwy's father being noted as deceased on the marriage cert, it could be a cover for not being in contact.

I would tend to agree with that.

Have you discounted this death in Jun qtr 1919 at Neath (11a/832) William Llewellyn JONES aged 53?

[jillyg]

Thank you Osprey, you have given me lots of information to work on.
I have my grandmothers birth certificate,which lists William Llewellyn Jones and Elizabeth a Jones as parents. Does this necessarily mean they are married, i haven't been able to find a marriage certificate?