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« Reply #99 on: Friday 18 October 19 11:55 BST (UK) »


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« Reply #100 on: Friday 18 October 19 12:03 BST (UK) »



I'd be inclined to think the ones in red are part of 1 lot!

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« Reply #101 on: Friday 18 October 19 12:07 BST (UK) »



Simple!   ;)


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« Reply #103 on: Friday 18 October 19 12:20 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #104 on: Friday 18 October 19 14:18 BST (UK) »


One also has the Ormond Deeds...see where they originated from or already there etc


But you are much better just going from one end of the chain!!


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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #105 on: Friday 18 October 19 15:41 BST (UK) »
Very impressive Hallmark! Even if I never identify precise connections to my Muingmore Kelly family, I can say with some degree of confidence I descend from nearby O'Kelly individuals, who would have lived in 1500-1600 say. That's just a matter of mathematics. I have similar breaks in other branches of my family tree, where common ancestor is known either by tradition or by DNA, but it is impossible to find direct links for 100 or 200 years etc. DNA might help out a lot here, I'd need to ask one of my Kelly cousins to get it done, since lineal male-male or female-female tells us a lot more.

Heywood helped by giving page showing townlands. To come back to Shevlanes it somehow seems more likely that those living in Toorglass would be connected than those, say, in Tallagh. But we can't be sure of course. I am curious about any information perhaps giving detail of when certain townships became occupied, i.e. were there new townships spread out in 18th-19th centuries?

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« Reply #106 on: Friday 18 October 19 15:45 BST (UK) »



I did similar checks for Shevlane (+ vars)  ...nothing!!



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« Reply #107 on: Friday 18 October 19 15:52 BST (UK) »
Found only one Richard Barrett in Griffiths Valuation. He is based at Attavally. He should be the son of Richard Barrett, Bard of Erris. Given the dates of the Valuation, probably our witness on those registers. If there was another Richard Barrett, he ought to be on that list of names? Apparently the Bard, his apparent father, knew the Binghams well enough. Visitors to Bingham Castle made a point of visiting Barrett on their travels to Belmullet. All in spite of his Irish Nationalism, for which he spent some time in prison, I read. His second wife was Maire Ni Mhoran, I wonder if her line is documented? The first wife Nancy was daughter of a wealthy landowner Sean Tollett. Anyway, none of this proves outright the relationships between the Barretts, but it does indicate connections. I have contacted another researcher, Barrett herself, via "Ireland Reaching Out". She connects with Daniel Kelly who died in Wisconsin, so hopefully a few things to talk about. I await a reply. One last thing, Griffiths shows "Honoria Barrett" at Bunnahowen. Given locations I think this will be the same who married Neal Shevlane, but the other "Honoria Barrett" at Alt is equally possible. Our Joseph Barrett appears at Toorglass. So at least people are starting to get pinned down a little on the map.