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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #117 on: Sunday 20 October 19 20:59 BST (UK) »
Verified reasonably well that the Bard cannot be direct ancestor, since his son entered Church Ministry according to book "In the Mullet" which details some history. He may well be an uncle or cousin though, how exactly I don't know. The name Richard Barrett does seem to have been known since the 16th century at least. This is an extract from an article on Wikipedia regarding Doolough:

"With the arrival of Anglo-Norman families into Erris, families of Barretts, Burkes and Lynotts settled in the Doolough area. Sir Edmund Barrett, known as the Baron of Irrus, is recorded as residing in a castle at Doolough in 1585. He was knighted by Queen Elizabeth I for his favors to the Crown. His sons Edmund and Richard were brought up in the household of Lord Essex in England. For the family's loyalty to the Crown, King James I in 1605 granted Sir Edmund more land in Erris and also a licence to hold a weekly fair at Doolough.[2]. The castle referred to was likely to have been located in the area known as Caislean or Caiseal. Part of the castle was still in use until 1937,[3] and the cobbles and stones from the castle were removed for the making of roads and houses in the area. The Barrett family went into armed revolt against the Crown in the early 17th century. They were shot and hanged, and their property was confiscated."

Note that both Edmond and Richard appear in these registers. Simple mathematics tells us that between the Baron of Irrus and the Barretts showing up on these registers, there can only be up to 7-10 generations. Not that long a time between 1585 and 1800. Enough to create a major gap in the tree however, with total dearth of records.

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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #118 on: Sunday 20 October 19 21:04 BST (UK) »
You’ve mentioned a different area again.
The Barretts are everywhere.  ;)
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« Reply #119 on: Sunday 20 October 19 22:20 BST (UK) »
Just saw this link on another thread

http://map.geohive.ie/mobile.html

You will find it really useful, I think.

Click on the menu (three bars, top right) and select Data Catalogue

Then Base information and mapping.

Scroll down to Historic Map 6ins B &W

It’s great.
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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #120 on: Monday 21 October 19 11:46 BST (UK) »
It's nonetheless within Erris, and that isn't a huge area. You find that over centuries everyone relates to each other, particularly if in rural landscape. Much the same applies to Scottish Highlands and Islands, with the Clans. Despite very vast territories, the kinship networks are close and strong usually.


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« Reply #121 on: Monday 21 October 19 13:48 BST (UK) »
I am just going from the movements of our own family.
They moved to Massachusetts rather than the other side of Blacksod Bay ;)
As you say though over centuries they may have ventured further.

I just thought you would like the map.
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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #122 on: Monday 21 October 19 22:06 BST (UK) »
Yes, the map helps! I wonder if DNA database has been done for this family?

More findings:

19/21 July 1844 - Richard Barrett and Bridget Carey/Early are parents to Bridget, Sponsors being Thomas Deane and Bridget Hoban. Location obscured but begins with "Lakeg-". No idea why it reads 19+21 where the date is, I assume it might be date of birth and date of Baptism?

1/8 September 1844 - Daniel Kelly born to Patt Kelly and Bridget Keane. Sponsors are Mary (?)Mangon(?) and (?)Kath(?) O'Donnell. Location is Dooyork. Simply of interest in that here is another Daniel Kelly again.

12/14 December 1844 - Mary Gumgal born to Patt Gumgal and Bridget Houston, Sponsors are Richard Barrett and Anne Barrett. Location Doolough - here spelt Doologh.

18/20 January 1845 - Edmond Barrett born to Richard Barrett and Bridget Gaughan, Sponsors Terence Conway and Margaret Kennedy. Location Dooyork.

23/25 January 1845 - Patt Shevlane born to Thomas Shevlane and Mary Laden, Sponsors Thomas (?) and Anne Noon. Surname for Thomas illegible, but location is Doolough. Looking at my map this Thomas Shevlane is likely to be a connection of my Michael Shevlane, as Doolough is not far from Shragh.

(?)/11 January 1846 - Bridget McCandron born to Ned McCandron and Catherine Barrett, Sponsors Richard Barrett and Bridget Barrett. Name spelt "Barritt" on this page. Location is Shragh.

26/28 May 1846 - Bridget Barrett born to Richard Barrett and Mary (?)Longahon(?). Sponsors are Anthony Barrett and Mary Gaughan, location Shragh.

8/11 October 1846 - Catherine Barrett born to Patt Barrett and Sally Shevlane. Sponsors are Thomas Barrett and Margaret Barrett, location Shragh.

(?)/16 September 1849 - Mary Barrett born to Richard Barrett and Mary Lynch, Sponsors are Patt Barrett and Bridget Barrett, location "Belonnel". I can't make out the place name here.

26/27 June 1850 - Bridget Kelly born to Terans Kelly and Mary Conway, Sponsors are Patt Conway and Catherine Conway. Location might be Muingmore. Could this be Terrance Kelly of Muingmore? Perhaps someone can take a look, it would be good to identify him.

1/3 May 1851 - (?) Gibbons born to Richard Gibbons and Catherine Loftus. Sponsors are Richard Barrett and Sara Monaghan, location is perhaps Doolough, again very hard to read.

4th January 1852 - John born to Martin (?)Togher(?) and Catherine Gibbons, Sponsors Joseph Barrett and Ellen Barrett. Location Toorglass - though I'm not certain of that. I expect this might be same Joseph Barrett who shows up earlier?

22nd July 1852 - Catherine Kelly born to Terence Kelly and Mary Conway, Sponsors Michael Barrett and Catherine Conway. Location Muingmore, so that helps settle Terrence. I see "6 19" after Catherine's name, perhaps her birthdate - i.e. 19th June?

4th May 1853 - Child marked on paper with "?" born to Edmond Barrett and Mary Barrett. Sponsors are Richard Barrett and Winny Barrett. Location possibly Doolough.

22nd December 1853 - Honoria born to Martin Togher and Catherine Gibbons. Sponsors Richard Barrett and (?)Nancy(?) Barrett, location is Toorglass.

8th February 1855 - James Barrett born to Richard Barrett and Honor Walsh. Sponsors are Phelim Scanlon and Nancy (?)Morgan(?). Location is "Tallagh--".

That covers the entire registers from 1841-1861 with all known Richard Barretts. I'll have to look in more detail at Shevlanes and bring all this together with locations too.








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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #123 on: Tuesday 22 October 19 19:32 BST (UK) »
Verified reasonably well that the Bard cannot be direct ancestor, since his son entered Church Ministry according to book "In the Mullet" which details some history. He may well be an uncle or cousin though, how exactly I don't know. The name Richard Barrett does seem to have been known since the 16th century at least. This is an extract from an article on Wikipedia regarding Doolough:

"With the arrival of Anglo-Norman families into Erris, families of Barretts, Burkes and Lynotts settled in the Doolough area. Sir Edmund Barrett, known as the Baron of Irrus, is recorded as residing in a castle at Doolough in 1585. He was knighted by Queen Elizabeth I for his favors to the Crown. His sons Edmund and Richard were brought up in the household of Lord Essex in England. For the family's loyalty to the Crown, King James I in 1605 granted Sir Edmund more land in Erris and also a licence to hold a weekly fair at Doolough.[2]. The castle referred to was likely to have been located in the area known as Caislean or Caiseal. Part of the castle was still in use until 1937,[3] and the cobbles and stones from the castle were removed for the making of roads and houses in the area. The Barrett family went into armed revolt against the Crown in the early 17th century. They were shot and hanged, and their property was confiscated."

Note that both Edmond and Richard appear in these registers. Simple mathematics tells us that between the Baron of Irrus and the Barretts showing up on these registers, there can only be up to 7-10 generations. Not that long a time between 1585 and 1800. Enough to create a major gap in the tree however, with total dearth of records.


I have a hunch that the Barretts and Lynotts didn't like each other...









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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #124 on: Tuesday 22 October 19 22:00 BST (UK) »
Yes, I saw that! It reflects the brutality of the times, even in picturesque Mayo. Going to do some more reading of the registers soon. While I'm at it, on 28th February 1839 Terrence Kelly married Mary Conway. It looks like "James Kelly" but I reckon it's Terrence, given the appearance of the couple later on. I am curious, however, as to the fact they only appear to have had two children - in the late 1840s and early 1850s. They do seem to have been at Muingmore for both their marriage and both Baptisms. What's going on here?

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« Reply #125 on: Tuesday 22 October 19 23:08 BST (UK) »


You have Tute's stuff..... I saw one Shenlane mentioned

https://archive.org/details/reportspapersrel00tuke/page/94?q=Muingmore

....even some interesting letters to home


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