Shevlane Origins

[hallmark]

So you've only the few for Barratt, Mayo, at NLI to look at.

[amac1210]

Noting three Thomas Barretts on the Valuation too. One is in Doolough, according with the Thomas Barrett shot dead in 1883. His wife was named Bridget. It is thought the murder resulted from disputes with Arthur Bingham and George Carter. Quite complicated story.

I have a Rose Barrett born outside marriage to Margaret Kelly, in 1905. She had a twin brother John who died after a few months that same year. Margaret herself died in childbirth. The father remains unidentified. I wonder if John would be his name? I tried contacting the Church but no response. The Baptisms aren't online for that time period.

Yes most Library work ought to be Kellys, but the Barretts are getting easier to pin down - even if I can't identify how they all connect.

[hallmark]

Another 2 films might have Barretts.....

[hallmark]

If I were researching the Barretts of Mayo I'd be inclined to look at stuff about the Barretts of Mayo at NLI.

[heywood]

Heywood helped by giving page showing townlands. To come back to Shevlanes it somehow seems more likely that those living in Toorglass would be connected than those, say, in Tallagh. But we can't be sure of course. I am curious about any information perhaps giving detail of when certain townships became occupied, i.e. were there new townships spread out in 18th-19th centuries?

I agree re Toorglass but as you say, we can’t be sure.
Richard Barrett, poet, was born near Elly Bay, I read, which is below Binghamstown on the way to Blacksod.
Just out of interest, I searched in my husband’s DNA matches using Barrett and Schuylkill County, PA which you mention re ‘Find a grave’. There are a couple of very distant matches but who would know if Barrett is the connection. (he has a Barrett grandparent).
It might be best to research and confirm within a smaller area at first perhaps.

[amac1210]

Had some contact from other researcher. Her (3x) great-grandfather is Francis Barrett of Srah. There are also Thomas Barretts in her tree. Seems we do all connect somehow, though it's a little complicated. I'm going into the registers again.

[heywood]

That’s good news.
It’s reassuring to make a connection.

[amac1210]

On the same page as Ned Shevlane's Baptism, and more clearly on page before, we have a child named "Marh" (I can't make name out, maybe Martin) Baptised on 11th November 1860 to Richard Barrett and Honor Walsh. Sponsors are Ned Barrett and Mary Gaughan. These registers have bad photocopying! Anyway this gives a wife for one Richard Barrett, if in 1860, probably a grandson of the Bard rather than a son. How does Ned Barrett fit in I wonder?

18th November 1860 - Richard Barrett and Bridget Kelly appear as Sponsors to Bridget, daughter of John (?)Dauid(?) and Honor Donohue.

21st October 1860 - Twins Baptised to Richard Barrett and Honor Gibbons. Can this be the same couple as Richard Barrett and Honor Walsh? Error on the cleric's side? Or two separate Richard Barretts married to two women named Honor? These twins were Catherine and Bridget. Sponsors are Richard Gibbons, Ellen Gibbons, (?)Joe(?) Barrett and Ellen Barrett. Perhaps the "Joe" is Joseph Barrett mentioned earlier.

19th December 1859 - Baptism of Richard, son of Richard Gibbons and Catherine (?)Loftus(?) with Sponsors Richard Padden and Catherine Keane. Presumably this is the same Richard Gibbons from the October 1860 record above, and perhaps a brother of Honor Gibbons who married Richard Barrett?

4th September 1859 - Terence Kelly shows up with Annie Deane as Sponsor for Catherine, daughter of John Barrett and Catherine Lally. This at least indicates Terrence Kelly of Muingmore, from 1834 Tithe Allotments is probably still alive.

27th March 1859 - Richard Barrett and Honoria Gibbons are parents to Edmond, Sponsors are James Gibbons and (?)Sally(?) Gibbons.

15th November 1857 - Mary Baptised, daughter of Mary Barrett and (?)Pat(?) (?)Early(?), Sponsors appear to be Richard Barrett and Pat (?)Ginly(?). Terrible handwriting here and I am not even sure about Richard on this record.

23rd November 1856 - Very poor condition again, but perhaps we have a son Michael born to Richard Barrett with Ellen Conwy as Sponsor. The other names are illegible entirely. Again not sure at all this is Richard.

6th April 1856 - Richard Barrett certainly appears as Sponsor here, with Mary McGragh, for Catherine daughter of Michael McGragh and Mary Miller.

All for now, more later.

[heywood]

On the same page as Ned Shevlane's Baptism, and more clearly on page before, we have a child named "Marh" (I can't make name out, maybe Martin) Baptised on 11th November 1860 to Richard Barrett and Honor Walsh. Sponsors are Ned Barrett and Mary Gaughan. These registers have bad photocopying! Anyway this gives a wife for one Richard Barrett, if in 1860, probably a grandson of the Bard rather than a son. How does Ned Barrett fit in I wonder?

I know I have said this before but I honestly doubt that the Richard Barretts you have found are descendants of Richard Barrett, the poet. I just think you need to take care in recording these ‘facts’.

It is difficult because townlands are often not shown on baptism records.

There is a baptism for Honor Barrett 1865 - parents Richard B and Honora Walsh.
Here is the civil birth - residence Dooyork
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03559/2310404.pdf
Dooyork townland
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/erris/kilcommon/rathhill/dooyork/

If you minimise the map, you can see where it is in relation to your family research.

Catherine Barrett 1865 parents Richard B and Honor Gibbons - residence Derrynameel
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03549/2306303.pdf

Derrynameel
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/erris/kilcommon/glencastle/derrynameel/

Richard the poet allegedly born Barrack/Elly
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/erris/kilmore/an-geata-mor-theas/barrack-south/

Apologies for repetitions