Charles Newenham and Ann Bowler, Snugmore (near Kinsale)

[akissling]

I am trying to find out more information about Charles Newenham, born around 1805 and died 1850 and Ann Bowler, his wife, born in 1791 and died in 1865 Kinsale. They married in 1824 and had at least two children, William Henry born in 1829 and Elizabeth. I can't find much on Charles and what he did. I am trying to connect his wife Ann Bowler to my GGGgrandmother Mary Cole born around 1819. I know Mary Cole lived in Snugmore for part of her life and went back during difficult times in her married life. See related post where I was kindly helped with the place name Snugmore https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=634709.0. Mary Cole was raised by her great aunt, Mary Bowler who married twice, Henry Massey and John Rice, Mary Cole's day school teacher). I think Ann Bowler might Mary's niece or some relation. Mary had one brother William but there is no evidence of a marriage. A nice person on this website was able to find Wm's death at Mary's residence in 1821 but there was not mention of other family members. I was not able to find an obituary of Ann Bowler Newenham's death. Any suggestions of places to find more information would be appreciated. Thanks.

[hallmark]

http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cork/1847/FEB.html

 On Tuesaday, the 16th inst., at Rincurran church, by the Rev. Richard Graves Meredyth, Alexander, eldest son of James Roche Dean, of the Cove of Kinsale, Esq., to Elizabeth, only daughter of Charles Newenham, of Snugmore, near Kinsale, Esq.



 Marriage of ELIZABETH NEWENHAM
in 1847
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Kinsale
Returns Year   1847
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   6
Returns Page No   371


 Marriage of ALEXANDER SHARP DEANE
in 1847
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Kinsale
Returns Year   1847
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   6
Returns Page No   371


https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do

or one can walk into any Registry Office in Ireland and get a photocopy for 4 €uro which should give father's occupation







Be careful  copying anything from https://www.myheritage.com/names/charles_newenham#

one has   Charles passed away on month day 1887, at age 126 at death place.      

There is one there that has Elizabeth Deane as a Sibling of Charles.............   

[akissling]

Thanks so much for the information and link! I have ordered the marriage certificate. Just to cloud things the Newenham family seems to have another Charles but this one is Charles B (for Burton). I appreciate the warning about the trees in MyHeritage! Again, thanks!

[hallmark]

https://nickreddan.net/newspaper/np_abst67.htm   has some bits

[dathai]

A James Roche Dean died 1876 age 76
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR1L-N6V

An Elizabeth Deane Deane died 1896 age 71
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05892/4671525.pdf

family 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/South_Dock/Mount_Street_Upper/1351500/

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/South_Dock/Mount_Street__Upper/85244/

just be aware that i did come across another Alexander Sharp Deane on Family Search
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FT1Q-QX9

oops seems to be the above family
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-45-3-7-020

[akissling]

Thanks Hallmark for the "bits" and dathai for the information on the Deane family. It seems like the Charles Burton Newenham family and Charles Newenham descend from the same line and then to add to the confusion the Deane family appears in a few branches. There is also the brother of Elizabeth, William Henry Newenham, and of course, there is a WH from the Charles B line as well. He was a Captain in the army (WH) so I know he is not the one that I need. I will also order the marriage of William Henry Newenham to Isabella Moore (1851 Donnybrook, Dublin) in the hopes it might also give another clue. Again thanks for the help and suggestions.

[hallmark]

Church Baptism, Marriage and Burial results for Newenham
Displaying results 1 - 83 of 83.   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oi7/

Some of Cork lot in Dublin too

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Birth, Marriage and Death results for Newenham from ? to 1863  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oi8/


Don't have Images yet.   

[akissling]

Thanks again Hallmark! For some reason when I click the link I get a Forbidden notice. Am I able to look it up in the directory? Again, thank you!