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Re: Samlesbury Hall paintings
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 18:43 BST (UK) »
Yes, I see what you mean. It’s best to put a link to your picture for copyright reasons though.

Fixed it!  :)

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Re: Samlesbury Hall paintings
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 19:02 BST (UK) »
I visited Samlesbury Hall a couple of years ago taking some photographs, I will go and have a look to see if there is anything interesting in the photographs.. :)

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 19:06 BST (UK) »
Reading the Wikipedia page about the hall, it seems that it was sold in 1670s and stripped of its interior features.
Various things happened to it after that.
It seems unlikely to me, that Southworth paintings would be saved and exhibited in our modern times back in the hall - only my opinion though.
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 14:53 BST (UK) »
Reading the Wikipedia page about the hall, it seems that it was sold in 1670s and stripped of its interior features.
Various things happened to it after that.
It seems unlikely to me, that Southworth paintings would be saved and exhibited in our modern times back in the hall - only my opinion though.

Also a good point. I guess somewhere along the way, these paintings could have been acquired and it was just assumed that they were of Alice and Edward.

A tour guide by the name of Simon Entwistle actually shows the paintings in his video tour of Samlesbury, but he refers to them as being of Thomas and Anne Southworth. On what he bases that information, I don't know.

https://youtu.be/tgTebt2Qv0c?t=206


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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 16:04 BST (UK) »
Are these paintings connected to the ghosts of Salmesbury Hall, allegedly one of the most haunted buildings in England, I wonder?   We often drove past the hall on the way to visit my grandparents very many years ago and always felt a shiver seeing it, as we had been told the story of the White Lady, Lady Dorothy Southworth, I think, who wanders the hall grieving for her murdered lover.
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Re: Samlesbury Hall paintings
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 16:30 BST (UK) »
It might be worth contacting Simon Entwistle

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Re: Samlesbury Hall paintings
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 17:47 BST (UK) »
Also a good point. I guess somewhere along the way, these paintings could have been acquired and it was just assumed that they were of Alice and Edward.

A tour guide by the name of Simon Entwistle actually shows the paintings in his video tour of Samlesbury, but he refers to them as being of Thomas and Anne Southworth. On what he bases that information, I don't know.

Do you know which Thomas Southworth it was? Thomas Southworth c. 1497-1546 married Anne Stanley (b. c1500)  and  Dorothy Boteler. Their dress doesn't look of that era imo, assuming it was a contemporary portrait.  Thomas Southworth c1548-1616 married Rosamund Lister.
Was the dress of the couple specifically Puritan or just a restrained style worn by not well-off gentry?
 The last Southworth owner of Samlesbury, Edward, died in 1694. He sold the Old Hall and the manor in 1679, 3 years after his father's death.
I watched the video. I remember the priest-hole upstairs from when I visited as a child (era of the b&w photos).
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Re: Samlesbury Hall paintings
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 21:35 BST (UK) »
I contacted Simon Entwistle about the video he made that featured the paintings and received this reply.

The film was made some 16 years ago by the Accrington film makers and was read from script .

So it looks like he doesn't know anything either. ???

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Re: Samlesbury Hall paintings
« Reply #17 on: Friday 11 October 19 21:12 BST (UK) »
I live in Preston and Samlesbury Hall is not far at all. I can probably take a visit in a week or so.

I can have a chat to the staff and my 12 year old son will be thrilled to do a bit of investigation work.

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