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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 10 October 19 14:37 BST (UK) »
oh on top of that I thought that 6/12 was 6 and a half years old therefore matching Esther.

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 10 October 19 14:59 BST (UK) »
I think this is her:

Births Dec 1870   
BAMFORD    Asnah        Dudley    6c   30    

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 10 October 19 14:59 BST (UK) »

Esther Elizabeth Ann Bamford on 22 Aug 1864 no father

Esther Elizabeth Ann Bamford is baptized in same parish on 1 Jan 1865  - father now given first name Samuel but his name is barred and he is not given a profession.

Then Esther disappears until her wedding to a boatman William Johnson Middlewich, Cheshire in 1864.  She has now become Esther Ann BANFORD and her father is Henry BANFORD. 
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When did Esther actually marry?

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 10 October 19 15:15 BST (UK) »
esther married 8 june 1884 st helens church Middlewich, cheshire
father Henry Bamford boatman
witnesses thomas carr
elizabeth johnson
nelly cork

samuel on baptism cert could be real name of father
henry could be name of person she considered her father having had no contact with mother seemingly from birth. or both could be invented to save face?
she could never read or write so she wouldnt know what was on her baptism cert


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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 10 October 19 15:46 BST (UK) »
Possibility:

1871

Estimated birth year:   1865
Relation:   Niece
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Wolverhampton Staffordshire England
Civil Parish:   Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish:   St Matthew
Town:   Welhampton
County/Island:   Staffordshire
Sub-registration district:   Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel:   33
Household schedule number:   106
Piece:   2940
Folio:   37
Page Number:   22
Household Members:   
Name   Age
James Farren   65
Sarah Farren   61
Enoch Farren   9
Esther Williams

Edited: Don't think so

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 10 October 19 15:59 BST (UK) »
This is more likely:

1871
Elizth E Williams
Age:   7
Estimated birth year:   1864
Relation:   Daughter
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Tipton Staffordshire England
Civil Parish:   Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish:   St Martin
County/Island:   Staffordshire
Country:   England
Registration district:   Dudley
Sub-registration district:   Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel:   16
Household schedule number:   206
Piece:   3000
Folio:   49
Page Number:   39
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Maria Williams   45
Henry Williams   20
George Williams   16
Eunice Williams   14
William Williams   13
Elizth E Williams   7

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 10 October 19 16:00 BST (UK) »
OMGoodness yes!
is that a boat census ?

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 10 October 19 16:05 BST (UK) »
No...Living at 23, Keelinge Street.

Maria is a widow born in Salop, Son Henry is a Furnace Keeper born in Wednesbury.

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 10 October 19 16:09 BST (UK) »
I really think this is it  - I'm in shock!
you have made my Mum's year!
Esther is her grandmother that she has heard so much about (a very charamatic figure it would appear) and she's been trying to trace her for about 15 years without a computer.
its absolutely amazing that you've found her.