Please help to date this photograph of my GGGF William Taylor from Botwell

[Turtle Dove]

The original is with my 2nd cousin once removed - he is her great-grandfather, my 2nd great-grandfather. I will check with her that there isn't any confusion about who the man in the photo actually is. The family was close though, so I imagine it is correct. That's really interesting about the collars. It would make more sense if the man was one generation later, so I'll look to see if there are other possibilities for his identity.

[Gadget]

I've looked through my own family photos and found one in 1904 that has some of the sons in softer collars but they are larger than yours and the ties are much bigger. The older man (my ggf) is wearing a wing collar and others are wearing stiff ones.

 

[Turtle Dove]

I don't know if it helps, but I think this photo was taken in the early 20s of William Taylor's son. He was born in 1888 and his son in 1911. There were older brothers, with the oldest born in 1876. Now I'm wondering if the man I think is William is young enough to be in his 30/40s in the photo!

[Wiggy]

Gadget and I were talking about the first man's age 'off air' and I must say my initial thought was that he was younger than someone born in 1853. 

We differed in our opinion!   

Wiggy

[Gadget]

I don't know if it helps, but I think this photo was taken in the early 20s of William Taylor's son. He was born in 1888 and his son in 1911. There were older brothers, with the oldest born in 1876. Now I'm wondering if the man I think is William is young enough to be in his 30/40s in the photo!

He could  be of that age.

Did your family grey late?

[Gadget]

A snip of my grandfather and his brothers in 1904. They were born in the 1870s-early 1880s.

[Turtle Dove]

Ooh so there were collars and ties in the early 1900s :-) There's something about the photo of William which does make him look a generation older than his son in the photo which was taken in the 20s. Maybe it's the chain! I wonder if he wasn't used to dressing up in collar and tie at all and made a clumsy attempt at it!

[Gadget]

This is from the same photo. It is of their father, my ggf, who was born in 1856. Note he has a winged collar.

(Just checked again and the pic could be either 1902 or 1904, depending on which daughter's marriage was being celebrated! )

[Turtle Dove]

William worked in the brickfields. I wonder if he borrowed the collar and tie especially for the photograph...maybe from one of his sons!