baptised with New Inn Yard, Shoreditch addresses but lived in Bethnal Green

[BumbleB]

More baptisms at St Leonards - obviously their preferred venue 

Edward - 1843 - address - New Inn Yard
Mary Susan - 1844 - address - New In Yard

[jacqueline cox]

HELP? WHERE HAS MY LIST GONE?
 I listed parents of James Sweeting (William 1775-1862 silversmith and Mary Riches) addresses for bapts of their children Leonard St, Hosier Lane 1801-1813, then James, son no 2 1803 - 1860 also a silversmith and his 2 women Elizabeth Eldon wife chn born 1823 -1829 (Eliz.th Mary, Amelia, William, James Henry, Martha Lydia) mainly KIng Johns Ct area to 1825, St Lukes 1828, Haggerson 1829 and Mary (Sophia) Orange partner chn born 1832 - 1846. Most known addresses Wellington Row BG but several baptismal addresses New Inn Yard (1832,1844) . Some births known only from burials: twins Charles and Lydia 1832, George 1833-4, George 1834-5, Henry (James) my 2x gt gfather 1836, Charles Ernest 1837, Louis 1838, David 1840, Alfred 1841, Edward Riches 1843, Mary Susan 1844 and Edward 1846 with bapts and Churches and addresses given. I noted addresses from Land Tax and the places of birth given by the surviving children in censuses.
AND IT IS NOT HERE!
Silversmithing was concentrated in Clerkenwell, furniture trades in Shoreditch - note enormous number of timberyards around New Inn Yard.
Joseph Orange was father of Mary Sophia Orange. He was a cabinet maker. He gave Curtain Road, New Inn Yard addresses in 1804, 1807, 1811, Woods Buildings 1821, and York Street BG 1814. He was listed as an elector there in 1838, and died there in 1863.
I still don't get it. I give up!

[BumbleB]

Aaaarrrgh      Always have a back-up somewhere 

I got my information from Ancestry!!

And just to point out - the entry I found for Edward Sweeting's baptism 11 September 1843 gives no indication of "Riches" - just the date, parents, occupation as Silversmith, and "New Inn Yard". 

[jacqueline cox]

I put the list into this conversation as requested by Philip and Ruskie. But it went somewhere else....
GRO Birth certificates

Edward Riches Sweeting, born 27 June 1843 2 Wellington Place, son of James Sweeting and Mary Sweeting formerly Orange, occupation of father silversmith, registered by James Sweeting, father, 2 Wellington Place, 8th Aug 1843
and
Edward Sweeting born 10 Sept 1846 2 Wellington Place, s/o as above mother as above, occupation ditto registered the x mark of Mary Sweeting, mother 2 Wellington Place 20 Oct 1846

[BumbleB]

Apologies - baptism didn't mention Riches.   

[S.Clackson]

I have a similar situation cropping up in my family tree (surnames Worby, Chillingworth, Herbert, Crow(e)).  In the censuses they give their place of birth variously as Bethnal Green, St Lukes, Spitalfields, yet each was baptised within a couple of weeks of their respective births at St Leonards Shoreditch, with the given abode being a place in Shoreditch (Mail Coach Yard, Holywell Lane, Saunders Gardens, New Inn Yard).
My assumption is that one's perception of place in such a crowded area might not necessarily correspond with the actual parish.  I assume St. Leonard's was used because it happened to be the closest church. 

[Lesley.Lynch]

Hi, I've just come accross this thread.

My ancestor was Mary Charlotte Woodbine, her father John Woodbine was a Whitesmith. Her baptism in 1801 at St Leonards gives an address of New Inn Yard.  Census returns for her show her place of birth as Bethnal Green.  I too am mystified. I am wondering if her father listed his workplace so that he could use St Leonard's church.

I can't tell if they were actually living in New Inn Yard.  The church would have only been a few minutes walk away though.  Perhaps my ancestor thought it easier to describe her place of birth as Bethnal Green?  I don't know enough about the area at the time to come to any conclusion.

Incidentally, the family moved on to Greenwich sometime before 1813 but Mary's father returned to St Leonard's to marry his second wife but continued to live in Greenwich.

[jacqueline cox]

I haven't looked at this for yonks, but there are enough of us in the same position to suggest that the the given addressees - NIY , Woods etc, being in Shoreditch but the residences being in Bethnal Green looks as though there must have been a perceived or actual advantage.
And I'm still no closer to knowing what it was....!

[Lesley.Lynch]

It is strange Jacqueline. It could even be a case of a dislike of the vicar at Bethnal Green. I'd need to look more closely at the church records.
I did have one case in Durham where many of my husband's relatives were baptized in a nearby town and I then found out the local church was being rebuilt during this time.