baptised with New Inn Yard, Shoreditch addresses but lived in Bethnal Green

[jacqueline cox]

Why are so many of my silversmith Sweeting and weaver Orange ancestors who lived in Bethnal Green baptised in St Leonards, Shoreditch  and claim to live in New Inn Yard? Other records prove it is  untrue. What advantage was there?
What was special about New Inn Yard? If you don't know, where can I look?

[philipsearching]

What period of time did the baptisms take place?

https://london18.co.uk/streets1832/NewInnyardShoreditch.shtml shows street directories from 1832 and 1842.

http://www.mernick.org.uk/thhol/raglon04.html has an excerpt from "Ragged London" (Hollingshead 1861)

http://www.census1891.com/viewhouse.php?sid=10 has a transcript of the 1891 census.

In 1891 (and probably for many years previously) New Inn Yard was mostly factories or warehouses, two pubs and several working class dwellings.

Charles Booth's map has New Inn Yard as "Fairly comfortable.  Good ordinary earnings".


Philip

[jacqueline cox]

These baptisms are both sides of 1800 to the mid 1830s. I have suspected for 15 odd years that the Shoreditch address, NIY, in St Leonard's parish was where the fathers worked, but they lived in St Matthews parish in Bethnal Green. Did St Leonards have some advantage? There was no charge for baptisms in the c19th, though there had been for some time before the late 1790s so it wasn't cost.

[MaureeninNY]

I'm not sure about the answer to your question-but have you seen the other baptisms re:Charles SWEETING 1832?
There are 2 others with the same address-Eliza Pamela DOWNES-who dies Bethnal Green:
Eliza Pamella Downs
 in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970


Maureen

[philipsearching]

This is an interesting puzzle.  I just wish I had a simple answer! 

FamilySearch has many SWEETING and ORANGE BMDs - do yours link to James SWEETING and Mary Ann ORANGE (tree on FamilySearch)?

If St Leonards Shoreditch PRs have the address as New Inn Yard where does the information that they lived in Bethnal Green come from (are the "other records" reliable sources)? 

[keyboard86]

Hi is this James & Mary Sweeting in 1851:-

James Sweeting 47 occ Silversmith b Dartford
Mary 46 b London
With family at Wellington Place, Bethnal Green
Census ref HO107/1541/533/21
Keyboard86

[jacqueline cox]

This is my family, but Mary Orange was not d/o Abraham Orange and Mary Chester as is found in most trees but Joseph Orange and Susanna Manchee (DNA matches confirm Manchee as well as Orange descent) The Orange family were also giving NIY addresses while living in Bethnal Green.
There are enough instances so i want to know why they did it. I need someone with detailed knowledge of that patch of Shoreditch.

[stanmapstone]

There was no charge for baptisms in the c19th, though there had been for some time before the late 1790s so it wasn't cost.

The Church of England has never charged fees for Baptisms. Under the Stamp Act of 1783 (23 Geo. III, c.67) a tax of three pence was levied on each Church Register entry of birth, baptism or marriage, except for paupers. There was such a popular outcry against this tax that it was speedily repealed in 1794.

Stan

[jacqueline cox]

Ok, I was  using words carelessly. i expect it felt like being charged to the people carrying their babies to church. But the thrupence is not the reason why my Sweetings and Oranges - James Sweeting and Joseph Orange claimed to live in Shoreditch when they lived in BG. I have had all the census returns and baptismal records concerned for nearly 20 years and have been gently wondering for as long; it wasn't until today that I decided to find out if anyone knew anything about New Inn Yard.