Then you have this family in 1881 in Dorking (Could be the relatives of Frederick W Young that James Lowder pulled from that lake)
Henry Lowder, 35, Surrey
Alice Lowder, 33, London
Alice Lowder, 14, Dorking, Surrey, England
George Lowder, 12, Surrey
Edith Lowder, 9, Surrey
Federick Lowder, 7, Surrey
Charlotte Lowder, 4, Kent
Gro
LOWDER, CHARLOTTE LIZZIE
YOUNG
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in TUNBRIDGE Volume 02A Page 696
and at Reigate
LOWDER, EDITH
YOUNG
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in REIGATE Volume 02A Page 165
Henry Lowders wife was Alice Young
and
FamilySearch says
Edith Lowder
christening:
28 August 1881
St Matthew, Redhill, Surrey, England
father: Henry Lowder
mother: Alice