Septimus Thompson 1857 - 1897

[Peter L. Mitchell]

Marriage certificate details in full:

Number:            5674
Date:                 16 January 1889.
Place:                Moor Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne.
Groom:              Septimus Thompson (bachelor) of South Melbourne, (born Newcastle, England).
Occupation:        Butcher.
Age:                   27 years.
Present Address: Roy Street, South Melbourne.
Usual Address:    Roy Street, South Melbourne.
Parents:             William Thompson (farmer), Margaret Thompson nee Esther (unclear).
Bride:                 Rosa Maria Grimsley (spinster) of South Melbourne. (born Harrietville, Victoria).
Occupation:        Servant.
Age:                   24 years.
Present Address: Roy Street, South Melbourne.
Usual Address:    Roy Street, South Melbourne.
Parents:             William Grimsley (Parson), Jane Elizabeth Grimsley nee Harris
Minister:             Nathaniel Kinsman (Church of England).

No information regarding time spent in the colony.

I will post a screenshot of the unclear part of the document separately if possible as an attachment.

[Peter L. Mitchell]

Screenshot as indicated in previous post.

[Peter L. Mitchell]

Correction to marriage certificate details (cross-checked with GRO records):

Parents:             William Thompson (farmer), Margaret Thompson nee Esther (unclear).

Correct information:

Parents:             William Thompson (farmer), Margaret Thompson nee Lister.

Peter

[Peter L. Mitchell]

Additional.

Attached is a screenshot of Septimus's death certificate. I know that Septimus and Rosa were married on 16 January 1889 and had two children, John and Hilda. The death certificate is troubling to me because of the complete absence of information about his parents, that the length of his illness was recorded as "not known" and also that he is recorded as being single. I can understand some information being omitted due to recording errors, but this seems to me to have been some sort of deliberate attempt to be anonymous. I think Chempat's thoughts (see earlier comments) are probably closest to the truth. Very sad, really.

I have ordered a copy of Septimus's birth certificate through the GRO and will post details as soon as I receive it (hopefully by the middle of next week).

Peter

[Tickettyboo]

There is a likely marriage for his parents in 1842, St Hilda, South Shields
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNJB-GPK

(FS not yet digitised this film so even at an FHC they aren't viewable yet)

GRO Marriages 1842 Q1 1842 S Shields 24 137 

a copy of the parish register entry (same as a GRO cert but not on posh paper AND you get original signatures) is a cheaper option than a GRO marriage cert. Durham Record Office, Tyne and Wear Archives will both supply either prints by post  or digital images by email. Am unsure if the South Tyneside Local History Centre offer a similar service to supply remotely but all three have microfilms and you can view/print if you can visit.


Boo

[Peter L. Mitchell]

Hi folks.

Courtesy of Port Phillip (Melbourne) Library I've just come across some interesting information about a Septimus Thompson who is not our man. His details are as follows:

Source:          Find My Past copy of Armidale (New South Wales) Prison record.
Number (of convict): 29.
Date portrait taken: 17th March 1896.
Name:           Septimus Thompson.
Year of Birth: 1870.
Trade:           Shoemaker.
Religion:        C of E.
Education:     R & W (any ideas here?).
Height:         5 feet 7 inches (170.18cm).
Weight:        111 pounds (50.3488 Kg).
Hair colour:   Black.
Eye colour:   Grey.
Marks or special features: High mouth and chin medium.
Conviction details:   Inverell Quarter Sessions February 5 1896.
Offence: Stealing from a dwelling.
Sentence: 2 years hard labour.
Screenshot of photo (hopefully) attached.

This might solve a problem for someone out there. If I find out any more I will post information.

[Peter L. Mitchell]

Additional to last post: Thompson lived in Seymour, Victoria before conviction.

I've just run a search of Birth Deaths and Marriages Victoria but not found him. The GRO records four Septimus Thompsons as follows:
        Name:                              Mother's Maiden Surname:
   THOMPSON, SEPTIMUS       PALLISTER 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in DURHAM  Volume 10A  Page 310

   THOMPSON, SEPTIMUS       AULD 
GRO Reference: 1872  J Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 894

   THOMPSON, SEPTIMUS       THOMPSON 
GRO Reference: 1872  S Quarter in PONTEFRACT  Volume 09C  Page 77

   THOMPSON, SEPTIMUS  CONSTANTINE     HENDERSON 
GRO Reference: 1870  J Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 123

[chempat]

I was going to ask if it definitely says R & W, but I have found this after a google search

From Ancestry, Bound Indentures 1827-1828
No: 43  Name: Williams John 42/694  Age: 15
Education: r&w Religion: Protest  ....

I will keep on looking.

[Peter L. Mitchell]

Definitely R & W.

I've done a search for him in birth records in Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland, Tasmania, and South Australia around 1870 (5 years either side) and found nothing.

Just located a death record for a Septimus Thompson in New South Wales as follows:

Name:  Thompson, Septimus
Registration number: 28045/1961
Father's given name: William
Mother's given name: Winifred
District: Hamilton