Adoptive parents of my great grandfather- wakefield/ royston/yorkshire

[avm228]

The 1939 question relates to children born to the marriage.

Of course it wasn’t meant to be answered by widows at all, but luckily for us many didn’t read the instructions all that carefully!

[jorose]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NTHR-D6V
 - according to Hilda's baptism she was Bertha Eliza

Wright's father was a John, as was Bertha's, so perhaps "John" was just taken from one of Clarence's grandfathers?

I think Bertha went on to marry Harry Jackson in Bramley district in early 1914, and had a son later that same year, Norman (mother's maiden name "Bromwick"), who sadly died as an infant.

Any indication of the occupation of "John" on the baptism?
Was he born at Lockwood? Was that also the address of the informant (possibly Lily) on the birth certificate? She may have only been at the workhouse to give birth, not being able to afford medical assistance otherwise.

[avm228]

Unfortunately the nonconformist baptism register doesn’t show any occupation for Clarence’s supposed father “John” (it’s not part of the format - not stated for any father).

46 Luck Lane, Marsh is the recorded address for the family at the time of the baptism.

[Girl Guide]

If I have the correct family Bertha has an older brother called John as well as her father, so that might be where the name came from

1891 census

Registration district   Pontefract
Archive reference   RG12
Piece number   3763
Folio   36
Page   28

[Jill short]

Hi, I’m so grateful for all your replies and taking the time to research. My cousin has told me she has a birth certificate which she got from Huddersfield birth records stating that Clarence’s mother on the certificate says Lily Balmforth , no name of father so perhaps he was born out of wedlock ?  I am unsure of how to access admissions to Lockwood union workhouse where it has been claimed he was born any info ?  I shall ask my cousin for a copy of the certificate . My other theory was that “Lily” was the sister of John Bamford . The different spellings of the surname doesn’t help either !  I never heard my family talk of any siblings of Grandad.  I was 5 when he died.           He received the Croix de Guerre ( WW2 )from Charles de Gaulle of which I have a photo. I have a little more info to piece together now from you, thanks very much.

[Girl Guide]

I wonder if this is of interest at all:-

Baptism of Lily Balmforth on 5 September 1886, born on 22 March 1886.  Place is St.Michael Church, Emley. Parents are Elizabeth and William and he is a stone mason.

Record set is Huddersfield Baptisms.

[Girl Guide]

She is on the 1891 census with her parents and also has a brother called John.

Registration district   Wakefield
Archive reference   RG12
Piece number   3742
Folio   22
Page   13

[Treetotal]

Hi Jill...This may not be of any interest to you but I have a beautiful photo of a young lady named Ivy Balmforth b. Hull 1889 who was a May Queen in Hull in 1913.

Carol

[avm228]

Clarence’s birth is indexed as Bamforth (rather than Balmforth), with mother’s maiden name Bromwich as previously mentioned.

I wonder whether the certificate had been misread. Are you able to get a copy or scan from your cousin?