Adoptive parents of my great grandfather- wakefield/ royston/yorkshire

[Girl Guide]

So on what record(s) did this person find Lily with the couple who had a baby with them?  And when was this?

[Katea3101]

I cant remember to be honest...my mum just told me.

[Girl Guide]

One way could have been through electoral rolls but you would need to know an address for those.  Have you thought about contacting the relevant council and asking for an electoral roll check for 46 Luck Lane at the time Clarence was born and maybe for a few years after that?

You may have to pay for the look up, places vary as to whether they charge or not.

[avm228]

Perhaps someone saw the birth certificate with “Lily” living at 46 Luck Lane and the baptism with “John & Bertha” living at 46 Luck Lane, and inferred understandably that Lily was a separate person lodging with the couple & her baby.  But the giveaway for me is the “Bamford formerly Bromwich” which fits only Bertha. And the fact that Bertha’s husband was deceased provides a reason for her being creative with the facts.

[Katea3101]

Yes the formerly bromwich definitely is a give away....I agree.
 on birth cert it says adress as luck lane and charwoman, under "namea" just clarence, no surname(is that common of what was done?)

He was known as Clarence Arthur Bamford Price, and later in life only used clarence Arthur Price.

His baptism was before his birth was registered and john and bertha were as parents, yet john had died. Did the church just take the word?I guess both parents didnt need to be present....
And then obvs the father part was left blank on birth cert.

I didnt realise you could do that with the electoral roll. I'll see if I can look into it.

[avm228]

“Name” is just the given name(s) - that’s correct for a registration at that time.

[Katea3101]

Hi everyone.

I seem to have hit a bump in the road.

We found a postcard of my great grandad sent 1930 to Margaret Preistley saying" with love from your big brother Clarence"

Now he was adopted, so we had no knowledge of any siblings etc....
So nice been digging today and found a few things...but am a bit stuck.

Can anyone help?


My great grandfather Clarence Bamford was adopted by Lucy( maid2n name Railton) and George Price in Royston Barnsley around 1910.

Lucy Price seemed to have remarried around 1915 to a man surname Priestley(first name unknown) we have no knowledge of what happened to George Price (on clarence marriage cert around 1930ish it says he is deceased)

Lucy then lived at  at 2 Earnshaw Place, Balne lane Wakefield on the 1939 census with what seems to be her daughter Margaret Priestley, Lucy is listed as widowed.

Was Lucy Priestley , Lucy Price his adoptive mother?
Was Margaret Priestley her daughter? And who was the father?

Who lived at 2 earnshaw place?
What happened to George Price?

If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated.

Thankyou
Kate

[CaroleW]

Is this Clarence’s birth reg - you haven’t given any details of his birth year

There were no formal adoption proceedings until 1927 so any “adoption” would be informal

Clarence Bamford Dec qtr 1908 Huddersfield 9a 284. Mmn was Bromwich

Or is he this one

Clarence Bamford Dec 1901 Sheffield. 9c 682 - illegitimate - no mmn shown

Buying a copy of his birth cert will give his mothers name.  Have a look at the 1911 census entry for the one b 1901

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7TT-VQB

[chempat]

Lucy's second marriage from free bmd

Marriages December quarter  1915 
 Lucy Price   Priestley   Barnsley   9c  555
 Arthur  Priestley   Price  Barnsley  9c  555