Nancy Shields/Sisam

[Fresh Fields]

Hello again Kathy.

Re NZN Archives file R23879094 - Coroner's Unnecesssary Case files / Agnes SHIELDS.

I have never looked up one of these files, so am uncertain as to how much detail the submission to the Coroner would contain. I assume the Police considered the cause of death was straight forward, and the submission just a formality. Such submissions then being filed as "unnecessary case files" by the Coroner's Office.

As the file is held at Wellington I'm not in a position to add it to the two that I will eventually investigate, and photograph, in the Auckland branch.  Moderator 'spades' will probably be in a position to advise you, re Wellington held files.

Alan.

[Janette]

Hello Kathy7

Do you know, or can guess at the identity of GillyR who submitted the headstone photo. Could be a closely related LIVING family member.

Privately approaching that person may assist with your enquiries.

Alan.

Alan I think GillyR just takes photos of headstones in that cemetery,if you look at her profile.

https://www.findagrave.com/user/profile/48886083

11,583 memorials

Cheers Janette

[spades]

Hi Kathy,

Regarding the file mentioned by Fresh Fields above;

Archives file R23879094 - Coroner's Unnecesssary Case files / Agnes SHIELDS.
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23879094

I can get this if you want. I imagine it will only provide cause of death without further information, but I would recommend you get it just in case there's more.

Spades

[spades]

Regarding Alan's suggestion above re the Archives New Zealand file - Coroner's Unnecesssary Case files / Agnes SHIELDS;

I have sighted this file today which consists only of a single sheet of paper titled Coroner's Order for Burial, which authorizes the burial of the body of 'Agnes (or Agnes Jean) SHIELDS of 12 Morton Street, Freeman's Bay Auckland'. Dated Auckland 24 April 1952.

It also stated that the Coroner did not consider an inquest necessary.

Addendum: across the top of the document is written the cause of death: 'Certificate from Dr Freeman: - Cerebral haemorrhage (and) Essential hypertension.'

Thanks Alan, for the suggestion.

Spades

[Janette]

Agnes was buried under the name of Hogan

Record for Agnes Jean Hogan

Date of birth Unknown

Date of death 24 April 1952

Age at death 74 years

Gender Female

Cemetery name Waikumete Cemetery

Plot location Waikumete Cemetery, Roman Catholic Division E, Row 6, Plot 112

Remains type Body

Date of burial 28 April 1952

Funeral director W H Tongue

The records for W H Tongue are now held by Sibuns who have a great archivist.You could try sending Sibuns an email including the above cemetery record their email address is here:   https://www.fdanz.co.nz/fdanz-funeral-directors

Cheers Janette

[Kathy7]

Many thanks to you all. Spades, Alan and Janette

[Fresh Fields]

Thanks 'spades' for looking that up. With a case file name like that, I assumed that would be the case, but was unsure how much supporting info the Police were obliged to supply in such cases.

Alan.

PS The business of farming, and farm cover, got in the way of me visiting the Auckland Archive today, but hopefully I will be back in the near future, and will look up the two Auckland held files for Kathy.

[spades]

Hi Alan,

I wasn't sure what I would find, so it's handy to know that those files contain.

Thanks again,

Spades

[Fresh Fields]

Hi again.

In some unrelated searching tonight I came across the listings for the UNNECESSARY CASE FILES 1958 ~ 1962. Nine files in total, and by counting the semi-colons in each file, of listed names, there appears to be about 100 named people in 8 files, and 70 in the 9th.  So not to be ignored, considering the inmformation spades found on the one he looked up.

Alan.