Margaret Gray, Margaret Hay aka Maggie Gray or Maggie Hay or Margaret Gray Hay

[Rosinish]

What a lovely gesture in Maggie's memory, especially at this time of year.

Annie

[tbears52]

It was a "labour of love" Rosinish to locate Maggie and many tears were shed once finding where she was laid to rest and then seeing how beautiful the Memorial Tablet was placed on her Lair.  I have attached a photograph of what we settled on.  We tried to encompass that Maggie was never forgotten by her children and their descendants and is very dearly loved.

The photograph was taken by the gentleman from the Fife Family History Society.  He took a few pictures and laid some flowers to let Maggie (“oor Maggie”) know she is forever in all our thoughts.

My cousin is descended from Annie Ethel Hay, who married William Cullen in Australia in 1903.  They travelled on the same ship to Australia with William leaving the ship in Western Australia and Annie went to New South Wales.

From what my cousin has found it looks like the Cullen side of the family are descendants of Andrew Cullen (? - 1840) and Agnes Mitchell (abt 1778 - 1863), both born in Ireland and both passing in Airdrie.  Are these part of your Cullen family by any chance please?

Cheers
Judi

[Rosinish]

The Memorial Tablet looks lovely & the words very fitting.

I'm not surprised tears were shed, it's a sad story all round but closure too.

Did you ever find out who Agnes Gray was?

Re the Cullen surname, I don't have an Andrew in my tree but it's possible siblings/other relatives of my 3 x g g/father Peter came over from Ireland who I've been unable to identify?
My 3 x g g/f died in 1865 in Wishaw, Lanarkshire & his son-in-law who was the informant, didn't know his parents' names.

It looks as though my 3 x g g/f arrived as a widower between c1844 & 1851 as I have him with his family in 1851 in Penty, Shotts, Lanarkshire but his youngest daughter, my 2 x g g/m was born in Ireland c1844-46 (no baptism found to date).
There's also a possible sibling or other relation named James living in Penty, Shotts in 1851 who married Mary Caddell in Glasgow in 1845 but no witnesses were recorded to be of any help 
James Cullen died in 1889 in Renfrewshire, his parents were Matthew & Janet (m/s Cooper).
None of the children of my Peter are named Matthew or Janet but I have a DNA link with someone who seems to be related to this family which we haven't worked out!

If you want to give me the details of William's parents/g parents with dates/places, I don't mind having a look around for a possible connection?

I also have a DC for a James (Single) 72 in 1885 in Airdrie with parents John & Margaret (m/s Weir)
On the same pg is Catherine King (Single) 10 mths, parents Peter & Mary (m/s Murphy) which may be of interest to you?

Annie

[tbears52]

Annie, I did find out who Agnes Hay was.  I hope this is the Agnes you were referring to, not Agnes Gray?

Agnes Hay was born 31 March 1850 and baptised 5 May 1850 at Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland to william Foster and Janet Mair. 

Agnes Foster first married David Crichton on 6 December 1882 in the Registration District of Newington, City of Edinburgh – 6 Viewforth Terrace, Edinburgh.  David's parents David Crichton General Labourer and Margaret Crichton MS Thomson, both deceased.  David who married Agnes was listed as a Maltman on Agnes' death registration.

Following David's passing Agnes Foster then married Robert Hay on 7 June 1894 in the Registration District of South Leith – 6 Dickson Street, Leith.  Robert Hay's parents were Robert Hay Railway Servant and Jane Hay MS Stevens, both deceased.  Robert Hay was listed as a Railway Foreman on Agnes' death registration.

Agnes Hay passed away 9 December 1939 at 27 Constitution Street, Dundee.  Her usual place of residence was Farview, Blebo Craigs, Fife.  The informant was John Murray, Nephew, Fairview, Blebo Craigs, Fife.

After finding this information and obtaining Valuation Rolls for between 1921 and 1936 Agnes Hay actually resided at Fairview Cottage, not Ayton Cottage.

Armed with this information I then went looking to see if I could locate anything to do with Ayton Cottage.  I came across a gentleman Isaac Newton (retired) living there.  The proprietor of the property was Joan H. Laing, sylvan Cottage, Kinross  the first instance I located was 1925 – 1925.  By 1930 Valuation Rolls Mary Newton, was living at Ayton Cottage and continued until the 1940 1941 Valuation Rolls.  I did not go further with these as by this time Maggie Gray / Hay had passed away.

So all in all Agnes Foster / Crichton / Hay is totally discounted from the family history for Maggie.  The biggest where was Maggie between 1895 until she died still is a mystery.  However, did she actually reside with Mary Newton or perhaps the informant on Maggie's death registration give the wrong address.  The informant was Maggie's sister-in-law so this will be a brick wall until further evidence can be located.

It has been an incredible journey with finding Maggie and what happened to her.  As I have said before it certainly was a labour of love to bring her home.

Kind regards
Judi

In relation to the Cullen family I will get back to you with the information, once I get some of it sorted.  I will PM you with this as it is not applicable to the Fife Forum.  It may take a week or so as I am still trying to follow down some leads.

[tbears52]

I forgot to put this in with the previous message, sorry.

The Courier and Advertiser, Monday, December 11, 1939, page 5

WOMAN OF 92 FOUND DEAD IN BED

Relatives with whom she was staying found on Saturday morning that Mrs Agnes Foster or Hay, c/o Dickson, 27 Constitution Street, Dundee, had died suddenly in bed.

Though 92, Mrs Hay had enjoyed good health until a day or two ago and until last week had resided alone at Blebo Craigs, Fife.

The interesting thing is Agnes Hay's death registration states she was 89 years and she died of Myocardial Degeneration Arterio Sclerosis and was seen after Death by James Ferguson MB ChB