RANDS from Marham, Norfolk

[Tabatha]

I'm looking for any relatives of Thomas Rands (b. circa 1799 in Marham, Norfolk) (died about 1852 in Marham) who married Ann Spruce.
Children were:    Emily b. 1840  Marham
                         Elizabeth b. 1843 Marham
                         Ann b. 1844 Marham

Emily Rands was married to Robert Thomas Rands b. Sept. 12, 1861 in Marham, Norfolk.
He married Elizabeth Mary Holman in Sept. 1885 in London City, London
(Elizabeth Holman is in my direct line and I have her siblings and living relatives but this is my first request for anybody related to her family.
Thank you.

[Brentor boy]

You may already have this.
From Free Reg:-
Marriage. Thomas Rands and Ann Spruce. 11 Oct 1838. Marham. Thomas Rands, widower, son of Thomas.

Burial. Thomas Rands, age 55. 9 Apr 1852. Marham

[Annette7]

I'm looking for any relatives of Thomas Rands (b. circa 1799 in Marham, Norfolk) (died about 1852 in Marham) who married Ann Spruce.
Children were:    Emily b. 1840  Marham
                         Elizabeth b. 1843 Marham
                         Ann b. 1844 Marham

Emily Rands was married to Robert Thomas Rands b. Sept. 12, 1861 in Marham, Norfolk.
He married Elizabeth Mary Holman in Sept. 1885 in London City, London
(Elizabeth Holman is in my direct line and I have her siblings and living relatives but this is my first request for anybody related to her family.
Thank you.

Emily Rands born 1840 married a William Warren 1873??

Annette

[Annette7]

I now see that Emily gave birth to Robert Thomas Rands, not married to him.

Annette

[Tabatha]

Annette, this is quite a confusing family - I am also in need of the correct spelling or pronunciation of the full name of the man who married Elizabeth Mary Holman in Sept. 1885 in London City.  It is ROBERT THOMAS ____________RANDS   - can anyone decipher it for me please?
He was born  Sept.12,1861 in Marham, Norfolk.

Thank you.

[Tabatha]

Brentor Boy,   thanks - I do happen to have that info. I worked on this family a few years ago and knew I'd have to get back to it one day so I'm continuing now - I have a lot of info on this family that I got from records back then and am hoping someone will come out of the woodwork and recognize their own family -  I have found quite a few cousins thru Roots Chat in the past that I'm in touch with and this is the only part of my direct line that is remaining to make contact with if possible. In the hopes that they will have info on generations further back that I don't have.

[amondg]

Looks like
Robert Thomas Lesalle Rands born 12 September 1861 son of Emily.

Perhaps Lesalle is a clue to his father.

[Tabatha]

amondg,   you were able to come up with that spelling quickly and we tried for days/weeks to analyze it and were never sure - now I can't find the document showing that name so haven't been able to look at it now.  what I have found on my computer is a hilarious explanation from somebody who was helping me from Random Acts of Kindness, about why I should not believe in any spelling until I get the actual Parish record and better still, birth certificate; and even then the vicar's transcript is probably not right because mum may have mumbled to the vicar because she wasn't married and then if she was illiterate she couldn't correct it anyway and so on.  Quite funny.  and it went on to say I should go for the birth record even tho the whole name may not be on there and lo and behold I did buy the cert. and sure enough no father's name was listed so then the person went on to explain how that might have all come about:)  Very funny.   So no help with the birth cert.  The thought back then was Tesalle.  I'll do some research with Lesalle and see what I come up with.     Thank you for your response I'm still laughing at my typed notes.

[amondg]

The image of the parish register entry is on anc....